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Bob Nightengale of USA Today is a fucking idiot (re: Edgar Martinez)

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Wow, not sure what's moronic - the fact that he typed that or the fact a bunch of Red Sox fans are liking it.

Funny thing is that the first comment about Edgar being a better player has more likes than the original tweet (185-109).

For a guy who's been around 30 years, he's pretty idiotic. Hopefully he isn't one of the HoF voters - cause if he is it explains a lot about the HoF.
 

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Reading down the comments, he's getting eviscerated for this tweet.
 

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I love it how being an east coast guy there really isn't anyone agreeing with him, even the Sox fans. Ortiz isn't getting in before Edgar, period. Either Gar makes it or no DH gets in.
 

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Alright guys, im going to go ponder life, i dont know when ill be back
 

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Let's also re-name the Cy Young award. Now it will be called the Greg Maddux award.
And the Roberto Clemente award will now be called the Kirby Puckett award.

How some people get a career in sports journalism is beyond me.
 

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I love it how being an east coast guy there really isn't anyone agreeing with him, even the Sox fans. Ortiz isn't getting in before Edgar, period. Either Gar makes it or no DH gets in.

Ortiz will probably get in before him because of narrative, but I've stated before that I think Edgar was easily superior. He should be a no doubter.
 

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Edgar revolutionized the DH. If there wasn't an Edgar, Ortiz would've been a glorified pinch hitter. Edgar made GM's value the position outside of just an aging veteran at the end of his career. The MLBPA should be campaigning for Edgar as he made the position actually make money.
 

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I love it how being an east coast guy there really isn't anyone agreeing with him, even the Sox fans. Ortiz isn't getting in before Edgar, period. Either Gar makes it or no DH gets in.
I would bet just about anything that you'll be wrong. But it's a good thing -- Ortiz getting in will help Edgar's case, in my opinion.
 

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Let's also re-name the Cy Young award. Now it will be called the Greg Maddux award.
And the Roberto Clemente award will now be called the Kirby Puckett award.

How some people get a career in sports journalism is beyond me.

exactly what I was about to say lets just start renaming all the awards starting with the Cy Young
 

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I love it how being an east coast guy there really isn't anyone agreeing with him, even the Sox fans. Ortiz isn't getting in before Edgar, period. Either Gar makes it or no DH gets in.

The media has always had a love affair with David Ortiz. I wouldn't be surprised if they let Ortiz in first. I believe Gar will eventually make it, the younger voters are more likely to take sabermetrics into account which strongly boosts Edgar's candidacy.
 

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That's just ridiculous. There's an award for DH of the year?
 

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Ortiz is a good baseball player but honestly I don't know how anyone could put the two side by side and say Ortiz was a better player. He had more longevity but that's not Edgar's fault.

Edgar made pitchers pitch to Junior and A Rod and had strikeout machine Buhner "protecting" him. The hidden numbers like neither Junior or ARod setting the major league record for intentional walks alone is a stat that should put Edgar in.
 

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Man he's really pushing his agenda on this.
 

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I don't have a problem with someone having the opinion that Ortiz > Edgar (even though I wouldn't agree), but if he says Edgar shouldn't make the Hall then we have an issue.

Looks like he'll make it though -- next year if not this one. I read yesterday he is on over 70% of the known ballots. Pretty big jump from last year.
 
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