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Alan Trammell and Jack Morris elected into HOF

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I can not think of one reason he should be left out ... Morris was (probably still is) an asshole. Trammell and Whitaker just played the game exactly like they were suppose to ... what a legendary keystone combination.

I can say this for a fact from first hand interaction with Jack, he IS an asshole. Not too much to me since I was the one providing him his Coors Light (decent tipper), but he's incredibly standoffish and arrogant with his fans. I still love him though!
 

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Happy about Trammell, glad the Morris debate is over but I don't think he deserved it.

What I'm most surprised/excited about is the break from tradition. The Veteran's Committee hadn't inducted a living player since 2001 when they inducted Bill Mazeroski and they just inducted two.
 

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honestly, I think WAR is the worst thing to happen to the HOF... I am convinced that voters/veteran committee just look at who are the highest WAR and not in and just say they belong in...

neither player deserves in IMO... Morris is a JOKE...
 

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honestly, I think WAR is the worst thing to happen to the HOF... I am convinced that voters/veteran committee just look at who are the highest WAR and not in and just say they belong in...

neither player deserves in IMO... Morris is a JOKE...

Are you saying they looked at WAR with Jack Morris? Because he ranks 139th all-time behind dozens of guys who will almost assuredly never make the HOF. Morris isn't even remotely close to being a HOFer going by WAR.

Career Leaders &amp Records for WAR for Pitchers | Baseball-Reference.com

Jack Morris got into the HOF because of G7 and because "teh most wins in the 80s", which ignores the fact that most of the superior pitchers during his career didn't pitch for the entire decade.
 

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Are you saying they looked at WAR with Jack Morris? Because he ranks 139th all-time behind dozens of guys who will almost assuredly never make the HOF. Morris isn't even remotely close to being a HOFer going by WAR.

Career Leaders &amp Records for WAR for Pitchers | Baseball-Reference.com

Jack Morris got into the HOF because of G7 and because "teh most wins in the 80s", which ignores the fact that most of the superior pitchers during his career didn't pitch for the entire decade.

no, i wasn't talking about Morris... Just Trammell... I do understand SS gets different treatment by the voters...

Morris is just epicly bad... especially since he pitched before the steroid boom...
 

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honestly, I think WAR is the worst thing to happen to the HOF... I am convinced that voters/veteran committee just look at who are the highest WAR and not in and just say they belong in...

neither player deserves in IMO... Morris is a JOKE...
Trammell probably got in because of his WAR. But I think he deserved it. I think Morris got in because they looked and saw how close he got in his final few ballots. Had nothing to do with WAR.
 

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"I remember pretending to be Jack Morris when we played baseball in the backyard"
-nobody. ever.
 

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kids in the 80's

"I get to be Jack Morris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"cool, so we are going to score 20 this inning"
 

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Congrats to Morris on getting into the HOF, not so sure about Trammel though.
 

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why does jack morris have a goatee?













to cover up the stretchmarks
 

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Congrats to Morris on getting into the HOF, not so sure about Trammel though.



It's the other way around - Trammel is much more HOF worthy than Morris.
 

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Im still waiting for the Spreadsheet guys to admit how wrong they've been.


But they've already reminded us how The Hall was again wrong.


Weird.
 

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The HOF has become so predictable. Every year it's, "My guy didn't get it, so the Hall is shit!" or "The guy(s) they voted in suck! (Read: My favorite guy is better).

Then there is my favorite..."WAR sucks!"..."No it doesn't!". hahahaha

Who cares? It's a block party - and you ain't even invited.
 

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There was one guy on that ballot who is an unquestionable Hall of Famer, and more than half of the esteemed panel was too stupid to vote for him.
 
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