A visit to the house of horrors.......Oakland 09/22-09/24

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Tell you what, as it stands, Gonzalez has thrown a decent game.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

And please pay special attention to all the great starting pitchers the Rangers have brought up to the majors that have been cultivated on JDs watch.

Try naming all the great starting pitchers who are currently playing for the GM that cultivated them.

 

[DT LUNA]

Try naming all the great starting pitchers who are currently playing for the GM that cultivated them.

Forget him Eph. He troll quite often.

 

[Kelleyman]

Out of our wealth we have made trades that have come back to bite due to only one reason. We did not win the WS. If that happens the trades are genius. Many bashed Elvis extension. But it is looking good now. Might be the same with Odor with a few tweaks. Of course we would like Brinson now but we have a young stud CF in our system.

All this venom re JD is not a good look IMO. Not everything he touches turns to gold but I think we are fortunate to have him. And he is highly regarded in the market

Ok I am done

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Forget him Eph. He troll quite often.

It's just such an ignorant "point" to try and make... like it's really simple to just develop a TORP.

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Matt Bush on the mound... can't remember who signed him, though.

 

[Kelleyman]

Matt Bush on the mound... can't remember who signed him, though.

And quickly off the mound. Nice

 

[DT LUNA]

Darvish Perez and Holland were all victims of TJS and have to be replaced without time or choice

 

[BULLPEN FAILURE]

Darvish Perez and Holland were all victims of TJS and have to be replaced without time or choice

Dutch didn't have TJS, I don't believe. Knee and shoulder surgeries. Your point remains intact, though.

 

[DT LUNA]

Dutch didn't have TJS, I don't believe. Knee and shoulder surgeries. Your point remains intact, though.

Correct. Tripped over the dog.lol

 

[Nightcrawler]

And please pay special attention to all the great starting pitchers the Rangers have brought up to the majors that have been cultivated on JDs watch.

Definitely not chi chi, lu jax, or little Nicky

 

[jaar01]

It's just such an ignorant "point" to try and make... like it's really simple to just develop a TORP.

Agreed that Gonzalez pitched well tonight. No argument there.

But I'm not saying every pitcher has to be a TORP. I'm saying the systemic failure of the Texas Rangers under JD has been the lack of development of good arms. And that, more than anything, is the key to being a championship contender in MLB. I'm not saying he's never done anything good. Of course he has. But my hope was that he would change the Rangers organizational culture to a pitching - rich system. Instead we are regressing to the Rangers of old: HRs, tons of Ks, poor bullpen, and offensive players with very limited defensive skill.

 

[jaar01]

And bear in mind until this season Elvis Andrus hasn't played anywhere close to the contract he got from JD.

 

[DT LUNA]

Side Bar: Saw on the DFW news that Pudge was doing MUCH for the people in Puerto Rico. He was in tears.

 

[DT LUNA]

Never blame a 1-0 loss on your pitcher.

 

[saddles]

Since we brought up Holland and Feliz this team has struggled mightily in developing pitching. JD is not one of the worst general managers by any means, but the time for thinking he is beyond criticism is far past. There are many fans and media members who refuse to ever blame him and those folks are living in the past. Since the WS years JD has made his share of mistakes and it has cost us. This board has been pretty good about not being too extreme one way or another for several months now. There have been times in the past when you mentioned something negative about JD that some folks would take it personally like he was a close relative of theirs.

 

[DT LUNA]

Since we brought up Holland and Feliz this team has struggled mightily in developing pitching. JD is not one of the worst general managers by any means, but the time for thinking he is beyond criticism is far past. There are many fans and media members who refuse to ever blame him and those folks are living in the past. Since the WS years JD has made his share of mistakes and it has cost us. This board has been pretty good about not being too extreme one way or another for several months now. There have been times in the past when you mentioned something negative about JD that some folks would take it personally like he was a close relative of theirs.

He is not perfect for certain. The Odor extension has begun to get fans attention.

 

[PhantomWarrior]

Correct. Tripped over the dog.lol

Hello Sir how are you!

 

[Nightcrawler]

Since we brought up Holland and Feliz this team has struggled mightily in developing pitching. JD is not one of the worst general managers by any means, but the time for thinking he is beyond criticism is far past. There are many fans and media members who refuse to ever blame him and those folks are living in the past. Since the WS years JD has made his share of mistakes and it has cost us. This board has been pretty good about not being too extreme one way or another for several months now. There have been times in the past when you mentioned something negative about JD that some folks would take it personally like he was a close relative of theirs.

I recall Romeo being the most hardcore JD loyalist and he would cuss people out for criticizing JD in any way, shape, or form.

 

[DT LUNA]

Hello Sir how are you!

I'm fine thank you. It was Holland that tripped over the dog and was hurt.