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A damn Shame about Rose's knee injuries. Would have been top 10 all time

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Youngest MVP ever, Was developing into a solid all around talent with his 3 point game improving, UNREAL slashing/finishing ability and with 3 ball was developing into an unstoppable talent. Bulls about to make a run at their first championship during their peak Rose-led years then BAM!!! Knee Injury in the playoffs. Just when he was peaking.

Now if us Rose fans wants to see him win his first long awaited 'ship, we have to route for Le3-5 this year.
 
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Youngest MVP ever, Was developing into a solid all around talent with his 3 point game improving, UNREAL slashing/finishing ability and with 3 ball was developing into an unstoppable talent. Bulls about to make a run at their first championship during their peak Rose-led years then BAM!!! Knee Injury in the playoffs. Just when he was peaking.

Now if us Rose fans wants to see him win his first long awaited 'ship, we have to route for Le3-5 this year.

No he wouldn't.

He couldn't shoot then, can't shoot now. He would have been a top 10 player for awhile, but nowhere near top 10 all time. All these PGs were better in their peak, and had many more prime years:

Magic
Stockton
Isaiah Thomas
Kidd
Chris Paul
Steve Nash
Curry
Westbrook
Iverson

That is just PGs and just since the 80s. There are plenty more you could debate as being better. These are just the no brainers.

Saying Rose would have been top 10 is actually crazier than saying Giannis will be the GOAT.
 

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No he wouldn't.

He couldn't shoot then, can't shoot now. He would have been a top 10 player for awhile, but nowhere near top 10 all time. All these PGs were better in their peak, and had many more prime years:

Magic
Stockton
Isaiah Thomas
Kidd
Chris Paul
Steve Nash
Curry
Westbrook
Iverson

That is just PGs and just since the 80s. There are plenty more you could debate as being better. These are just the no brainers.

Saying Rose would have been top 10 is actually crazier than saying Giannis will be the GOAT.


Once again.. The Youngest MVP ever. And they had more "prime years" because they didn't have season ending knee injuries at closing in on their best years peak/prime years.

Many of them had better supporting help as well. If Rose had stacked teams around him and didn't get the knee injuries he would have 3-4 'ships already and not even 30 yet
 

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Once again.. The Youngest MVP ever. And they had more "prime years" because they didn't have season ending knee injuries at closing in on their best years peak/prime years.

Many of them had better supporting help as well. If Rose had stacked teams around him and didn't get the knee injuries he would have 3-4 'ships already and not even 30 yet

The Bulls were about 10 wins better without Rose than with him. It was the difference between being the 2nd best team in the East and being the 4th best. And no, even though they finished with the best record, they were never the best team. That was Miami.

If Rose were legitimately in track to be an all time great player, he would have had a lot more impact than that. Your claims have no merit. Rose's "supporting cast" was good enough to win 50 games without him. That is better than LeBron's today.
 

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Youngest MVP ever, Was developing into a solid all around talent with his 3 point game improving, UNREAL slashing/finishing ability and with 3 ball was developing into an unstoppable talent. Bulls about to make a run at their first championship during their peak Rose-led years then BAM!!! Knee Injury in the playoffs. Just when he was peaking.

Now if us Rose fans wants to see him win his first long awaited 'ship, we have to route for Le3-5 this year.

Of all-time? No lol
 

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The Bulls were about 10 wins better without Rose than with him. It was the difference between being the 2nd best team in the East and being the 4th best. And no, even though they finished with the best record, they were never the best team. That was Miami.

If Rose were legitimately in track to be an all time great player, he would have had a lot more impact than that. Your claims have no merit. Rose's "supporting cast" was good enough to win 50 games without him. That is better than LeBron's today.

You're basing this off the buillshit regular season? With that logic Bulls would have had a better shot in the playoffs without Rose (We saw how that went) than with him.

Don't be a biased homer.

Youngest MVP ever and developing into an all around crazy inside-out talent.
 

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Once again.. The Youngest MVP ever. And they had more "prime years" because they didn't have season ending knee injuries at closing in on their best years peak/prime years.

Many of them had better supporting help as well. If Rose had stacked teams around him and didn't get the knee injuries he would have 3-4 'ships already and not even 30 yet

I guess you forgot he played in the East, Lebron has owned the conference and I wouldn't see how he would have changed that.
 

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Of all-time? No lol


With developing the 3 point game, and his finishing/slashing abilities and never getting injured and eventually getting the right talent around him? He would have been there.
 

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I guess you forgot he played in the East, Lebron has owned the conference and I wouldn't see how he would have changed that.


Wrong.. Lebron and his Superteam of multiple HOFers owned the conference. We saw How LeShits did without a superteam. :D:D:D.. But The bulls had key injuries though MOST of those years. Boozer was injured one year, Noah got injured, Rose got injured, Bulls were up 2-1 vs. the Cavs and Gasol got injured
 

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You're basing this off the buillshit regular season? With that logic Bulls would have had a better shot in the playoffs without Rose (We saw how that went) than with him.

Don't be a biased homer.

Youngest MVP ever and developing into an all around crazy inside-out talent.

Homer? Do you know what that means?

This post is utter garbage. Why would they have a better chance without him? I said they were only marginally better with him, which is true. He is/was a ball dominant scorer. While his skill set is different, his impact on the game is actually very similar to Kyrie, who you said is overrated.

That makes YOU the biased homer. You are the one warping reality to make your guy look better.

I saw Rose play live when he was in high school. I have never seen a player go end to end with the ball faster than him. He was a ridiculous physical specimen. BUT, he never developed the shot or the BBall IQ to be a truly great player.
 

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Homer? Do you know what that means?

This post is utter garbage. Why would they have a better chance without him? I said they were only marginally better with him, which is true. He is/was a ball dominant scorer. While his skill set is different, his impact on the game is actually very similar to Kyrie, who you said is overrated.

That makes YOU the biased homer. You are the one warping reality to make your guy look better.

I saw Rose play live when he was in high school. I have never seen a player go end to end with the ball faster than him. He was a ridiculous physical specimen. BUT, he never developed the shot or the BBall IQ to be a truly great player.

Guess you didn't watch Rose much after high school then because he was developing a nice outside game (Especially 3 ball) before the first knee injury


You don't acknowledge this fact then your post is garbage
 

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Guess you didn't watch Rose much after high school then because he was developing a nice outside game (Especially 3 ball) before the first knee injury


You don't acknowledge this fact then your post is garbage

LOL.

First off, you shouldn't really be calling anybody's posts garbage. Because you are literally the worst basketball poster I have ever seen.

Second, Rose had exactly 2 seasons in which he played more than 10 games where he shot above 30% from 3 and his career best (excluding '14 when he played 10 games) was 33.2%. His career average is under 30%.

That is literally terrible. Maybe he would have improved some more had he not gotten hurt, but he did get hurt and he didn't improve. Your hypothetical what ifs are irrelevant.

Until you can back your "facts" with actual stats, you got nothing.
 
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Oh, and by the way,

D. Rose is sitting tonight with an ankle injury. Shocker.
 

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Oh, and by the way,

D. Rose is sitting tonight with an ankle injury. Shocker.


Did you see how he landed on that OBVIOUS Flagrant foul last night. These SHit ass NBA players today don't know how to play D or understand basic fundamentals, Of course it wasn't a flagrant because only the pussy Ass SuperStars get those. You can't even breathe on these soft bitches today
 

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Did you see how he landed on that OBVIOUS Flagrant foul last night. These SHit ass NBA players today don't know how to play D or understand basic fundamentals, Of course it wasn't a flagrant because only the pussy Ass SuperStars get those

Neither does Rose, so he fits right in.
 

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Neither does Rose, so he fits right in.

It was a flagrant foul bottom line. Rose has never gotten the pussy superstar calls. Which is why hes had joint problems with all his slashing . We all know that.

If they did that to Lebron/DurCant/ Slurry etc. they would have gave that defender 3-4 years.

LeBitch flopped for years not getting hit. Rose TAKES the abuse. And he paid for it and the defenders never pay the price.

Because this corrupt league operated with their own double standards.

If Rose got the pussy LeCalls he would have been living at the FT line his whole career like Shaq/Lebron/Kobe etc.
 
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LOL.

First off, you shouldn't really be calling anybody's posts garbage. Because you are literally the worst basketball poster I have ever seen.

Second, Rose had exactly 2 seasons in which he played more than 10 games where he shot above 30% from 3 and his career best (excluding '14 when he played 10 games) was 33.2%. His career average is under 30%.

That is literally terrible. Maybe he would have improved some more had he not gotten hurt, but he did get hurt and he didn't improve. Your hypothetical what ifs are irrelevant.

Until you can back your "facts" with actual stats, you got nothing.

Facts are backed enough.. Then DON'T be a dunsky and compare a guy who had his career peak/prime cut short due to injuries to guys who played their entire peaks/primes

Intelligent observers know things would have been different if Rose and the Bulls were healthy through their run. They would have a few Finals Appearance and the LeCavs and LeHeat would have LESS
 

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Facts are backed enough.. Then DON'T be a dunsky and compare a guy who had his career peak/prime cut short due to injuries to guys who played their entire peaks/primes

Intelligent observers know things would have been different if Rose and the Bulls were healthy through their run. They would have a few Finals Appearance and the LeCavs and LeHeat would have LESS

Man. You really are some kind of special.

Calling me a dunsky for comparing Rose to players with full careers? YOU are the one who said a guy with 1.5 good seasons on his resume would have been top 10 all time. You started a BS thread.

I know for a fact that Miami was better than Chicago because I watched them play when both teams were full strength. All your assumptions are just flat out hilarious.

I know what intelligent observers will say, and they won't agree with you.
 

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