A BRAND NEW TEAM...

[JoeyTourettes]

This version the Chicago Bears will be very different from what you saw last year. WOW do we have a lot of NEW players:

Offense:
QB:
1. Mike Glennon
2. Mark Sanchez
3. Mitch Trubisky
RB:
1. Benny Cunningham
2. Tarik Cohen
WR:
1. Kendall Wright
2. Marcus Wheaton
3. Ruben Randle
TE:
1. Dion Simms
2. Justin Perillo
3. Adam Shaheen
OLine:
1. Bradley Sowell
2. Taylor Boggs
3. Tom Compton
4. Jordan Morgan

Defense:
DLine:
1. Jaye Howard
2. John Jenkins
Dback:
1. B.W. Webb
2. Marcus Cooper
3. Prince Amukamara
4. Quinton Demps
5. Eddie Jackson

22 new players. THAT'S A LOT of turnover from a roster that finished 3-13. We have to remember that we had A LOT of injuries last year too. It's conceivable that we have at least 10 or more new starters from last year. It's going to be interesting for sure. This TEAM didn't finish 3-13... they haven't played a single game yet.

 

[anotheridiot]

nothing like building a team thru free agency. Really wanted to upgrade a little more at tackle, I just dont think Sitton, Leno and Massie are part of an 5 year plan like Whitehair and Long.

 

[richig07]

nothing like building a team thru free agency. Really wanted to upgrade a little more at tackle, I just dont think Sitton, Leno and Massie are part of an 5 year plan like Whitehair and Long.

nothing like building a team thru free agency.

Yeah, we're doing the opposite of that...

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

nothing like building a team thru free agency.

Yeah, we're doing the opposite of that...

5/22 are drafted players. The rest are FAs, even if they are UDFAs. Technically he is right, but those numbers will change by the time the season starts.

 

[richig07]

5/22 are drafted players. The rest are FAs, even if they are UDFAs. Technically he is right, but those numbers will change by the time the season starts.

I understand. However, this regime is by no means building through free agency. They have been put in a position the past three years, where they have to clear house and clean up a huge mess. So, of course they're going to have to bring in some FA's to bridge the gap, they have no choice. However, they have been very clear about their philosophy of building through the draft, and they have not made any big commitments through FA. It's all cost-effective signings, to fill holes and add depth. The core of this team is being built through the draft.

Trevathan and McPhee are the only two guys that we've made even somewhat sizable commitments to. They're also both still young, and have ceilings that could far exceed their pay-grade.

Calling this "building through free agency" is blatantly ridiculous.

 

[JoeyTourettes]

Pace has had 3 drafts, And he's picking some key franchise players.
Rush OLB- Floyd,
Center- Whitehair
RB(2) Howard, Langford.
WR- White (still a question mark- but a high pick.)
Safety- Amos, 2 year starter out of a 5th rounder, yes we probably need to upgrade, but still.
And now QB. Trubisky.

You can add players like Goldman, Grasu, Kwiatkowski, and Bullard ... who have potential to contribute.

He IS doing it through the draft, I can assume they will look to a high pick for a Tackle next year... of course depending on how the draft shakes out, but these are good picks- starters. THEY are STILL VERY young and we can hope they grow into probowler's and stars.
For Offense the BIG 5 of Trubisky, Howard, Whitehair, White, and now Shaheen... COULD be future stars.

And Totally agree with richig that almost all of the FA's have been filler young 1 year deals with potential, with very few big money exceptions.

 

[richig07]

Pace has had 3 drafts, And he's picking some key franchise players.
Rush OLB- Floyd,
Center- Whitehair
RB(2) Howard, Langford.
WR- White (still a question mark- but a high pick.)
Safety- Amos, 2 year starter out of a 5th rounder, yes we probably need to upgrade, but still.
And now QB. Trubisky.

You can add players like Goldman, Grasu, Kwiatkowski, and Bullard ... who have potential to contribute.

He IS doing it through the draft, I can assume they will look to a high pick for a Tackle next year... of course depending on how the draft shakes out, but these are good picks- starters. THEY are STILL VERY young and we can hope they grow into probowler's and stars.
For Offense the BIG 5 of Trubisky, Howard, Whitehair, White, and now Shaheen... COULD be future stars.

And Totally agree with richig that almost all of the FA's have been filler young 1 year deals with potential, with very few big money exceptions.

It's obviously way too early to tell, but next year's OT class is regarded as being very deep with talent. Hopefully Leno and Massie can take steps forward this year in pass protection. However, next year could potentially be Trubisky's first year starting. It could be a good thing to have a young stud LT coming into the league with our young QB, and growing up along side each other.

We're a couple of tackles away from really having a nice base setup for Trubisky to walk into. C - Whitehair... G's - Sitton and Long... T's - 1st round pick and Leno or free agent. They also do seem to like this young kid we took in the 5th, that Fox coached at the Under Armour All-American game, or whatever that was.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

I understand. However, this regime is by no means building through free agency. They have been put in a position the past three years, where they have to clear house and clean up a huge mess. So, of course they're going to have to bring in some FA's to bridge the gap, they have no choice. However, they have been very clear about their philosophy of building through the draft, and they have not made any big commitments through FA. It's all cost-effective signings, to fill holes and add depth. The core of this team is being built through the draft.

Trevathan and McPhee are the only two guys that we've made even somewhat sizable commitments to. They're also both still young, and have ceilings that could far exceed their pay-grade.

Calling this "building through free agency" is blatantly ridiculous.

Building through free agency is kind of an oxymoron because every successful teams at least partially builds through free agency. I look at it like you can either build from the ground up, by drafting well and finding UDFAs and young cheap FAs that produce. You can also build from the top down, by getting expensive FAs to fill holes every year. Building from the ground up is definitely the way to go and it's what we are doing.

 

[Ice_nine]

The Bears have signed more free agents than other other team this year. In the entire league.

Of the 20 guys with $2 million plus cap hits (basically the starters), 16 of them are free agents. That's the highest ratio in the league.

Their roster is talent depleted, so you can't blame them for doing it. But saying they aren't a free agent-built team right now? This board cracks me up some times.

 

[richig07]

The Bears have signed more free agents than other other team this year. In the entire league.

Of the 20 guys with $2 million plus cap hits (basically the starters), 16 of them are free agents. That's the highest ratio in the league.

Their roster is talent depleted, so you can't blame them for doing it. But saying they aren't a free agent-built team right now? This board cracks me up some times.

Wow. Talk about a straw man. Are you serious?

We SPECIFICALLY talked about what you're referring to. The majority of the Bears starters are made up of free agents. However, to suggest that is how the front office is building this team for the future through free agency, is absurd. When you're clearing house, and rebuilding. You're going to have to bridge the gap with FA's, until your core can develop.

It's also pretty obvious that veteran FA's will have higher cap hits than the young players still on their rookie contracts. For instance, Jordan Howard and Cody Whitehair are not on that last of 2 mil+ cap hits. They're two of the Bears best players. All of the players drafted by this young regime, are still playing under their rookie deals. Meredith and White earn less than other WR's, yet they'll likely be the two starters heading into camp.

Right now, Glennon is a FA and the starting QB. However, I believe it's pretty clear the Bears are planning on Trubisky being the QB of the future. Right now, Zach Miller is the starting TE. However, we also just took a TE 45th overall. Check back in a few years, and you're going to see a lot more players that were drafted starting and on their second contracts.

Outside of only a small handful of players. Some of which are still from the previous regime, these free agent guys are playing under short-term deals. They're not pieces that are being built around. They're here until the younger players develop, or until that area is addressed in the draft.

You're the most uninteresting troll ever to roam these boards. Truly, what a half assed job. You don't even bother to read the thread. lol

 

[Ice_nine]

All teams have some young low paid guys. The Bears and lots of other teams including mine dont have highly paid guys because we have no good legacy players we drafted. It isnt complicated. So your team did what every other bad team has to do when it sucks fora period of time in the draft. It signs a lot of free agents. Thats not a criticism of the team not a statement about the future. Its an observation of the obvious. What I was laughing at you for was that you seem to be in denial about it. By any league standard the Bears currently are heavily made up of free agents. No not entirely but mainly. Face it both of our squads have a lack of great long term players we drafted. Even Cleveland has Joe Thomas for christs sake. We have nothing. So we sign free agents.

But why you act like this is not happening is what is peculiar. Th Bears are a great team with a great fanbase of diehard fans. A true football legacy. Amazing defenses Id say the best ever. I love it when they kick Detroits ass.

But you called this an above average defense. Not based on a pathetic league worst 11 turnovers obviously. Based on what? Yards? In case you didnt pay attention to YOUR team, opposing teams ran on the Bears for a lot of last season because they had leads and because the Bear defense was pretty crappy. Injured sure but crappy. Yeah they gave up relatively few passing yards, not because they were great, but because teams attempted few passes against them compared to most because they were busy with the lead and running. The defense basically was shitty. Maybe they have potential who knows. But you actually trumpet this defense like it was provably good. It wasnt, and from a fan who has known a lot of good and great defenses, the kind Rex Ryan should have brought to our town but didnt, Im stunned your memory is that short or you are that much of a homer.

11 turnovers? Most free agents on the roster? Dude the Bears may be a great team again but you need to clear your head about talking about them.

 

[richig07]

All teams have some young low paid guys. The Bears and lots of other teams including mine dont have highly paid guys because we have no good legacy players we drafted. It isnt complicated. So your team did what every other bad team has to do when it sucks fora period of time in the draft. It signs a lot of free agents. Thats not a criticism of the team not a statement about the future. Its an observation of the obvious. What I was laughing at you for was that you seem to be in denial about it. By any league standard the Bears currently are heavily made up of free agents. No not entirely but mainly. Face it both of our squads have a lack of great long term players we drafted. Even Cleveland has Joe Thomas for christs sake. We have nothing. So we sign free agents.

But why you act like this is not happening is what is peculiar. Th Bears are a great team with a great fanbase of diehard fans. A true football legacy. Amazing defenses Id say the best ever. I love it when they kick Detroits ass.

But you called this an above average defense. Not based on a pathetic league worst 11 turnovers obviously. Based on what? Yards? In case you didnt pay attention to YOUR team, opposing teams ran on the Bears for a lot of last season because they had leads and because the Bear defense was pretty crappy. Injured sure but crappy. Yeah they gave up relatively few passing yards, not because they were great, but because teams attempted few passes against them compared to most because they were busy with the lead and running. The defense basically was shitty. Maybe they have potential who knows. But you actually trumpet this defense like it was provably good. It wasnt, and from a fan who has known a lot of good and great defenses, the kind Rex Ryan should have brought to our town but didnt, Im stunned your memory is that short or you are that much of a homer.

11 turnovers? Most free agents on the roster? Dude the Bears may be a great team again but you need to clear your head about talking about them.

What I was laughing at you for was that you seem to be in denial about it.

But why you act like this is not happening is what is peculiar.

Honestly, do you even read posts before replying? How many times do I have to acknowledge that we have a lot of free agent starters? Lol. There's no way to respond to this, other than to tell you to re-read my posts in this thread.

Stop creating straw man arguments, and being dishonest.

But you called this an above average defense. Not based on a pathetic league worst 11 turnovers obviously. Based on what? Yards?

They spent the majority of the season, ranked in the top ten (yes, in yardage). Despite... A) missing the majority of their starters, for most of the season. B) Having a horrific offense, that constantly put them in horrific spots. Whether it be from turning the ball over, or constantly going three-and-out.

Yes, for 13 games, they were a solid defense. Ranked 6th in the NFL in yardage at that point. The last three games wound up being a horror show, for a variety of reasons. The injuries got to the point where fans didn't even know who the players were on the field anymore, and Matt Barkley turned the ball over 12 times.

Nobody said they were a great defense. Simply promising. There is a lot of talent on the defense (particularly in the front seven), and when players were healthy, it showed. I hope you come back here around November, because if this defense does stay healthy. It will be one of the top ten units in the league.

 

[anotheridiot]

the facts do not lie for near the last decade. traded for a franchise QB giving up how many firsts and a second? cut more second thru 4th rounders (players that make up the teams depth and should be special teams).

Sure, we can hope the future follows the good front offices of drafting their starters, but we are not there yet. Wasn't Pace quoted as saying you should draft a quarterback every year? He did not even do that his first two so he is not even running his game plan. Took a defensive tackle to replace a second and third round tackle. Took Howard to replace Langford, who he drafted.

Oh, now we signed Skuza, does that make it 12 or 13? No faith in Nick Kwaitkowski?

Come on rich, you gotta admit, you just argue to argue. Lets see if Amos, Hall or Bush are replaced by Cooper. God, please not Amos, he was the jewel we got for Brandon Marshall.

 

[beardown07]

the facts do not lie for near the last decade. traded for a franchise QB giving up how many firsts and a second? cut more second thru 4th rounders (players that make up the teams depth and should be special teams).

Sure, we can hope the future follows the good front offices of drafting their starters, but we are not there yet. Wasn't Pace quoted as saying you should draft a quarterback every year? He did not even do that his first two so he is not even running his game plan. Took a defensive tackle to replace a second and third round tackle. Took Howard to replace Langford, who he drafted.

Oh, now we signed Skuza, does that make it 12 or 13? No faith in Nick Kwaitkowski?

Come on rich, you gotta admit, you just argue to argue. Lets see if Amos, Hall or Bush are replaced by Cooper. God, please not Amos, he was the jewel we got for Brandon Marshall.

I think the reality of this signing, unfortunately means Danny Trevathan will not be ready for the season.


I think it has very little to do with "faith" in Kwatkiowski, as much as it does getting depth at a thin position.

 

[NCChiFan]

Bring them all in... More the merrier, more camp competition the merrier... weed out the ones that can't cut it, hope for the best. This team had a LOT of holes last year. Too many to be filled by one or two drafts.

 

[richig07]

the facts do not lie for near the last decade. traded for a franchise QB giving up how many firsts and a second? cut more second thru 4th rounders (players that make up the teams depth and should be special teams).

Sure, we can hope the future follows the good front offices of drafting their starters, but we are not there yet. Wasn't Pace quoted as saying you should draft a quarterback every year? He did not even do that his first two so he is not even running his game plan. Took a defensive tackle to replace a second and third round tackle. Took Howard to replace Langford, who he drafted.

Oh, now we signed Skuza, does that make it 12 or 13? No faith in Nick Kwaitkowski?

Come on rich, you gotta admit, you just argue to argue. Lets see if Amos, Hall or Bush are replaced by Cooper. God, please not Amos, he was the jewel we got for Brandon Marshall.

What are you blabbering on about? You blithering idiot.

We are not talking about the last decade, we are talking about the Pace/Fox era. Where we are clearly building through the draft.

Wasn't Pace quoted as saying you should draft a quarterback every year

This is why you get shit dude. What the fuck are you talking about? No, he was not. You make shit up.

I don't argue "just to argue". You're just such an ignorant, dumb, simple-minded, mouth breathing jerk off. That you can't see further than a foot in front of your stupid, mongoloid face.

You see the amount of free agent starters and think; "Duh-uh! That means we're building through free agency!"... Look at the core of the team. Look at the length of the contracts and financial commitments to those free agents. We are not tied in to any of these guys long-term.

 

[anotheridiot]

“New Bears general manager Ryan Pace is on the record as saying he believes the way you attack the quarterback position is in waves, drafting them and signing as many free agents as you have to until you strike gold.

He also made reference on Wednesday at the combine to the old Ron Wolf school of thought about drafting one every year.”

GM Ryan Pace All But Confirms Chicago Bears Will Draft A Quarterback

 

[Ice_nine]

Ouch! Lol.

 

[richig07]

“New Bears general manager Ryan Pace is on the record as saying he believes the way you attack the quarterback position is in waves, drafting them and signing as many free agents as you have to until you strike gold.

He also made reference on Wednesday at the combine to the old Ron Wolf school of thought about drafting one every year.”

GM Ryan Pace All But Confirms Chicago Bears Wi

“New Bears general manager Ryan Pace is on the record as saying he believes the way you attack the quarterback position is in waves, drafting them and signing as many free agents as you have to until you strike gold.

He also made reference on Wednesday at the combine to the old Ron Wolf school of thought about drafting one every year.”

GM Ryan Pace All But Confirms Chicago Bears Will Draft A Quarterback

ll Draft A Quarterback

Thank you! You just dug your own grave and laid down in it.

You have nothing. Show me the quote where Pace says it, you dishonest ass.

You have a blogger saying it. lol

This is 100% proof of how dishonest you are. My god. You take one tidbit of information and run forever with it. All because some blogger said it.

Pace believes in drafting a QB every year... yet he just now drafted his first one?

You claim Pace was quoted as saying this... so, what do you do? You find a quote of a blogger saying it.

You never fail to amaze me, AI.

 

[Ice_nine]

Hundreds of articles with him quoted saying this. Here's just one of them.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chic...ch-bears-nfl-spt-0405-20150404-story,amp.html

Keep digging.