MLB Daily Thread: 9-28-17 Well Red Sox tried to lose the game, Indians just win

[cerealboi]

his Cy take:

Sale has the better FIP because of his higher strikeout rate and very, very slightly lower home run rate, while Kluber has the lower ERA, so Sale leads in FanGraphs WAR by 0.6 and Kluber leads in Baseball-Reference WAR by more than a win and a half.

Baseball Prospectus, which tracks the quality of batters a pitcher faces, has the two in a near dead-heat by any measure of strength of competition. As with the MVP races, there are multiple good answers here, but I'd choose Sale for the higher K percentage and for making four extra starts. Either is a worthy choice, however.

It's immaterial to the race, but I was amused to see that Sale has had just four outings all year where he allowed more than four runs and two came against Cleveland.

Kluber wins it. And it won't be particularly close.

 

[Rock Strongo]

sale averaged 16.1 pitches/inning
kluber 14.45

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

i was off

3428 for sale not 3248

Jesus.

 

[Rock Strongo]

sale has thrown 564 more pitches than kluber

holy shit

 

[Rock Strongo]

Jesus.

yeah, thats...half way to a thousand

 

[Rock Strongo]

so sale has 4 more starts than kluber, yet has throw 564 more pitches


sale averaged 107.1 IP per start
kluber...102.28

this math isnt adding up

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

so sale has 4 more starts than kluber, yet has throw 564 more pitches


sale averaged 107.1 IP per start
kluber...102.28

this math isnt adding up

Where are you getting the numbers from?

 

[Rock Strongo]

@cerealboi

i noticed this in sales outings recently. pitch count by start:

July, threw over 100 pitches in every start. averaged 114.8 pitches. had a 1.04 ERA
August, threw over 100 pitches in 4 of 6 starts. averaged 101.8 pitches. had a 4.38 ERA
September, threw over 100 pitches in 2 of 5 starts, averaged 101.2 pitches per start. had a 3.72 ERA

they way overpitched him and are slowly trying to reel back the pitches/start as the playoffs approach. i hope its not too little too late.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Where are you getting the numbers from?

Chris Sale 2017 Pitching Gamelogs | Baseball-Reference.com

Corey Kluber 2017 Pitching Gamelogs | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Kluber wins it. And it won't be particularly close.

Let's talk about the Yankees

 

[navamind]

Let's talk about the Yankees

they're gay

 

[osubuckeye89]

Kluber's September has been ridiculous

5-0 0.71 ERA 0.74 WHIP 47K/3BB

While Sale had some problems in August/September

I think the much stronger finish ends up sending the Cy Young to Kluber.

 

[cerealboi]

Let's talk about the Yankees

Look at these schmaggots

 

[redseat]

wow! Hulu's UI SUCKS!!

 

[redseat]

Kluber's September has been ridiculous

5-0 0.71 ERA 0.74 WHIP 47K/3BB

While Sale had some problems in August/September

I think the much stronger finish ends up sending the Cy Young to Kluber.

It's Kluber's to lose period.. Sale blew it the last few starts

 

[redseat]

Welp Astro's came to play @DirtDirtDirt

 

[redseat]

Royals ready to open up their checkbooks $100+million deal to Hosmer

 

[redseat]

Ugg 5-0 stros

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Look at these schmaggots

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Lemme know when everyone realizes Bird will be a star