Discussion in 'NBA Basketball Forum' started by tlance, Aug 6, 2017.
tf12 beat me to it(the bastid), so i'll say KD...
I gotz the quickness.
Lebron if he feels like going for it, meaning the Cavs don't coast along in the regular season like they did last season.
I'd say smart money is on Kawhi though. Barring insane individual numbers, no one on the Warriors will win it because the voters will use the "super team" thing against them. I'd rule Westbrook out because I can't see him repeating his numbers with Paul George there and that insane line is why he won last year. Harden has Paul there to take some work load away as well. But Kawhi is there all by his lonesome. The Spurs are always good. He's been hovering around the MVP vote the last couple of years and there's a very smart voting block out there that rightfully keeps his name out there. So with everyone else with potential knocks against them, Kawhi just keeps doing what he's been doing and gets the nod.
Dark horse is Giannis. He had very good numbers last year for a young player and if he continues his trajectory combined with the Bucks leaping into 50ish win territory (both possible), he's gonna get a lot of buzz.
I disagree on the super team thing.
LeBron has been there, done that. He won back to back MVPs in his 2 seasons before the Decision. Year 1 with the Heat, he finished a distant 3rd behind Rose and Howard because of the super team formation. Years 2 and 3 though, he won again because by then he had asserted himself as the lead dog, just as KD did last season in the playoffs.
The Super Team Thing won't be held against KD as much as some want to believe. If the Warriors lap the field and he is clearly their best guy like he was in the playoffs, I believe he will emerge as the favorite for the next couple years, until voter fatigue starts to set in.
I bet KD gets at least 1 more regular season MVP award in the next 3 years.
It was held against him last year, it won't be this year, if he puts up similar numbers to last year and doesn't get hurt he could easily win it. Even tho he scored less points last year it was the best stat line of his career, the injury killed his MVP chances though.
Years 2 and 3 with the Heat, Lebron was pretty clearly the best player on the team by a long stretch. Wade was showing the mileage on the treat and Bosh was also fading.
KD has to contend with a in his prime Steph along with a team of quality scorers. It's hard to imagine KD average 28 ppg with the Warriors because he won't have enough touches.
He doesn't necessarily need to average 28.
Here was KD last year:
25.1 PPG, 8.3 REB, 4.8 ASST, 1.1 STL, 1.6 BLK on 53.7% from the field
25.5 PPG, 5.8 REB, 3.5 ASST, 1.8 STL, .7 BLK on 48.5% shooting
Obviously Kawhi is the better defender, but the raw numbers for KD are superior. If the Warriors win 10-15 more games than SA and KD has better numbers, he will beat out Kawhi.
I think Westbrook and Harden will have a hard time repeating as 1a and 1b because both put up monster numbers last year which are likely to dip a bit this year due to the additions of Paul George and CP3. I do have two dark horse candidates though: Karl Anthony-Towns and Blake Griffin.
KAT could potentially be a sexy pick later on because of the assumed leap the T-Wolves could take this year. If KAT continues to get better as he's done each of the last few years, puts up monster numbers again and gets his team hovering towards a 4 seed he could put himself in the conversation. Of course Butler is going to be a big reason why, but it's clear who the best player on the TWolves will need to be for them to be a real playoff contender. Voters for years wanted to vote for Anthony Davis, but couldn't because his team wasn't winning. KAT could be in a similar position and could see some votes depending on the success of the team.
Blake Griffin is no longer handcuffed to CP3. The unknown part here is if we'll see how he really was affected by CP3. A strong part of me thinks that Blake could take a huge leap forward in production being the main focal point of the team for a change. The major issue for him will be if he can stay healthy and on the court.
Don't get me wrong. KD is, IMO, the better player and will be critical to the Warriors winning their 3rd in 4 years.
But he is more of a one man show and that will matter to the voters. Assuming that the Spurs wind up again with 58 or so wins. Unless the Warriors get 70+ again, which is certainly possible, I don't see them giving it to a Warrior because the bar is going to be too high.
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I'm thinking the smart assumption among most I've heard so far (as early as it is) is Kawhi, but I would not be surprised if KD beat him out for it. Giannis could get it if the Bucks are a decent squad, and make the playoffs with a 5-6 seed.
Kawhi is the only correct answer
Yeah.... I hate to be a dick and copy someone, but pretty much what the turkey said. I do think greek boy is going to win it, because how weak the East is, and of course his stats are going to greatly improve obviously if he doesn't get injured.
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This is a hard one, you can make a plausible case for a lot of guys, pretty much all mentioned already: Kawhi, KD, Westbrook, LeBron, Giannis, etc. Hell what if A. Davis stays healthy all damn year?
Pelicans woun't be good enough.
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