2017 MLB Draft

[SFGRTB]

So we got the top 3 guys in the fold already. Signing this fast could mean that they focused on signability rather than ceiling.

Just a grouchy potential take...

No.

Very grouchy indeed. Giants wouldn't draft someone they feel they wouldn't be able to sign. No teams do. It screws up their other picks if they don't sign. Only 2 of the top 316 players last year in the top 10 rounds did not sign (after the 10th round it's a completely different story, but that's because bonuses aren't typically negotiated).

To be honest, most of these deals are worked out before the draft. The little details, the extra few thousands get tossed around after the draft are ironed out, but typically something is agreed upon before the draft. Or else there's very little chance a team would draft a player because they don't think they'll be able to sign him. The Giants would not have taken Corry in the 3rd round if they weren't confident in what his bonus demand was and how that fit into their scheme.

 

[SFGRTB]

Complete list (If Cal or Stokes want to update this list with signing bonuses, that'd be cool):

1. (19) Heliot Ramos - OF. Slot Value $3,101,700 (signed for $3,101,700)
2. (58) Jacob Gonzalez - 3B. Slot Value $1,121,300
3. (96) Seth Corry - LHP. Slot Value $558,500
4. (126) Garrett Cave - RHP. Slot Value $417,200
5. (156) Jason Bahr - RHP. Slot Value $310,800
6. (186) Bryce Johnson - CF. Slot Value $239,600
7. (216) Logan Harasta - RHP. Slot Value $187,800
8. (246) John Gavin - LHP. Slot Value $154,200
9. (276) Aaron Phillips - RHP. Slot Value $140,000
10. (306) Rob Calabrese - C. Slot Value $132,500
11. (336) Doug Still - LHP. Slot Value $125,000 (through round 40)
12. (366) Aaron Bond - CF
13. (396) Tyler Schimpf - RHP
14. (426) Michael Sexton - 3B
15. (456) Orlando Garcia - SS
16. (486) John Russell - RHP
17. (516) Brac Warren - RHP
18. (546) Chris Corbett - C
19. (576) Frankie Tostado - RF
20. (606) Keaton Winn - RHP
21. (636) Logan Baldwin - CF
22. (666) Greg Jacknewitz - LHP
23. (696) Shane Matheny - 3B
24. (726) Nico Giarratano - SS
25. (756) Franklin Van Gurp - RHP
26. (786) Kyle McPherson - SS
27. (816) Matt Brown - RHP
28. (846) Peter Lannoo -RHP
29. (876) Frank Rubio - RHP
30. (906) Sean Watkins - CF
31. (936) Keenan Bartlett - RHP
32. (966) Blake Rivera - RHP
33. (996) Peyton Maddox - C
34. (1026) Connor Nurse - RHP
35. (1056) Dalton Combs - RF
36. (1086) Joe Marciano - LHP
37. (1116) Andy Rohloff - RHP
38. (1146) Antonio Saldana - LHP
39. (1176) Brad Dobzanski - RHP
40. (1206) Liam Jenkins - RHP

5th rounder Jason Bahr has signed for $250,000. $60,800 under the slot.

So far they are $209,400 over their bonus pool after 4 picks.

 

[SFGRTB]

Complete list (If Cal or Stokes want to update this list with signing bonuses, that'd be cool):

1. (19) Heliot Ramos - OF. Slot Value $3,101,700 (signed for $3,101,700)
2. (58) Jacob Gonzalez - 3B. Slot Value $1,121,300
3. (96) Seth Corry - LHP. Slot Value $558,500
4. (126) Garrett Cave - RHP. Slot Value $417,200
5. (156) Jason Bahr - RHP. Slot Value $310,800
6. (186) Bryce Johnson - CF. Slot Value $239,600
7. (216) Logan Harasta - RHP. Slot Value $187,800
8. (246) John Gavin - LHP. Slot Value $154,200
9. (276) Aaron Phillips - RHP. Slot Value $140,000
10. (306) Rob Calabrese - C. Slot Value $132,500
11. (336) Doug Still - LHP. Slot Value $125,000 (through round 40)
12. (366) Aaron Bond - CF
13. (396) Tyler Schimpf - RHP
14. (426) Michael Sexton - 3B
15. (456) Orlando Garcia - SS
16. (486) John Russell - RHP
17. (516) Brac Warren - RHP
18. (546) Chris Corbett - C
19. (576) Frankie Tostado - RF
20. (606) Keaton Winn - RHP
21. (636) Logan Baldwin - CF
22. (666) Greg Jacknewitz - LHP
23. (696) Shane Matheny - 3B
24. (726) Nico Giarratano - SS
25. (756) Franklin Van Gurp - RHP
26. (786) Kyle McPherson - SS
27. (816) Matt Brown - RHP
28. (846) Peter Lannoo -RHP
29. (876) Frank Rubio - RHP
30. (906) Sean Watkins - CF
31. (936) Keenan Bartlett - RHP
32. (966) Blake Rivera - RHP
33. (996) Peyton Maddox - C
34. (1026) Connor Nurse - RHP
35. (1056) Dalton Combs - RF
36. (1086) Joe Marciano - LHP
37. (1116) Andy Rohloff - RHP
38. (1146) Antonio Saldana - LHP
39. (1176) Brad Dobzanski - RHP
40. (1206) Liam Jenkins - RHP

7th round pick Logan Harasta signs for $140,000. $47,800 under the slot.

Now $161,600 over the slot after 5 picks.

 

[Stokes1931]

Now $101,600 over the slot after 6 picks.

 

[calsnowskier]

Aren't teams given about 500k cushion on their pool anyway?

 

[SFGRTB]

Aren't teams given about 500k cushion on their pool anyway?

Giants can go $318,180 over their pool before they lose a 2018 pick. That's for all 40 rounds. Usually teams use the extra space to convince a few of their riskier 11-40 round picks to sign.

 

[SFGRTB]

I'll get $$$ figures when I see them

 

[SFGRTB]

Complete list (If Cal or Stokes want to update this list with signing bonuses, that'd be cool):

1. (19) Heliot Ramos - OF. Slot Value $3,101,700 (signed for $3,101,700) at slot
2. (58) Jacob Gonzalez - 3B. Slot Value $1,121,300 (signed for $950,000) below slot
3. (96) Seth Corry - LHP. Slot Value $558,500 (signed for $1,000,000) above slot
4. (126) Garrett Cave - RHP. Slot Value $417,200
5. (156) Jason Bahr - RHP. Slot Value $310,800 (signed for $250,000) below slot
6. (186) Bryce Johnson - CF. Slot Value $239,600
7. (216) Logan Harasta - RHP. Slot Value $187,800 (signed for $140,000) below slot
8. (246) John Gavin - LHP. Slot Value $154,200
9. (276) Aaron Phillips - RHP. Slot Value $140,000 (signed for $80,000) below slot
10. (306) Rob Calabrese - C. Slot Value $132,500
11. (336) Doug Still - LHP. Slot Value $125,000 (through round 40)
12. (366) Aaron Bond - CF
13. (396) Tyler Schimpf - RHP
14. (426) Michael Sexton - 3B
15. (456) Orlando Garcia - SS
16. (486) John Russell - RHP
17. (516) Brac Warren - RHP
18. (546) Chris Corbett - C
19. (576) Frankie Tostado - RF
20. (606) Keaton Winn - RHP
21. (636) Logan Baldwin - CF
22. (666) Greg Jacknewitz - LHP
23. (696) Shane Matheny - 3B
24. (726) Nico Giarratano - SS
25. (756) Franklin Van Gurp - RHP
26. (786) Kyle McPherson - SS
27. (816) Matt Brown - RHP
28. (846) Peter Lannoo -RHP
29. (876) Frank Rubio - RHP
30. (906) Sean Watkins - CF
31. (936) Keenan Bartlett - RHP
32. (966) Blake Rivera - RHP
33. (996) Peyton Maddox - C
34. (1026) Connor Nurse - RHP
35. (1056) Dalton Combs - RF
36. (1086) Joe Marciano - LHP
37. (1116) Andy Rohloff - RHP
38. (1146) Antonio Saldana - LHP
39. (1176) Brad Dobzanski - RHP
40. (1206) Liam Jenkins - RHP

So far: $101,600 above slot

11-40 round that have signed

12th rounder Aaron Bond
13th rounder Tyler Schimpf
14th rounder Michael Sexton
15th rounder Orlando Garcia
16th rounder John Russell
18th rounder Chris Corbett
21st rounder Logan Baldwin
22nd rounder Greg Jacknewitz
23rd rounder Shane Matheny
24th rounder Nico Giarratano
25th rounder Franklin Van Gurp
26th rounder Kyle McPherson
27th rounder Matt Brown
28th rounder Peter Lannoo
31st rounder Keenan Bartlett
35th rounder Dalton Combs
36th rounder Joe Marciano
37th rounder Andy Rohloff

I'm guessing all of the 11-40 round guys that have signed have signed for the slot. Typically, guys after the 10th round don't negotiate until all the top 10 round picks are signed and they fight over the leftover bonus money.

 

[SFGRTB]

Complete list (If Cal or Stokes want to update this list with signing bonuses, that'd be cool):

1. (19) Heliot Ramos - OF. Slot Value $3,101,700 (signed for $3,101,700) at slot
2. (58) Jacob Gonzalez - 3B. Slot Value $1,121,300 (signed for $950,000) below slot
3. (96) Seth Corry - LHP. Slot Value $558,500 (signed for $1,000,000) above slot
4. (126) Garrett Cave - RHP. Slot Value $417,200
5. (156) Jason Bahr - RHP. Slot Value $310,800 (signed for $250,000) below slot
6. (186) Bryce Johnson - CF. Slot Value $239,600
7. (216) Logan Harasta - RHP. Slot Value $187,800 (signed for $140,000) below slot
8. (246) John Gavin - LHP. Slot Value $154,200
9. (276) Aaron Phillips - RHP. Slot Value $140,000 (signed for $80,000) below slot
10. (306) Rob Calabrese - C. Slot Value $132,500
11. (336) Doug Still - LHP. Slot Value $125,000 (through round 40)
12. (366) Aaron Bond - CF
13. (396) Tyler Schimpf - RHP
14. (426) Michael Sexton - 3B
15. (456) Orlando Garcia - SS
16. (486) John Russell - RHP
17. (516) Brac Warren - RHP
18. (546) Chris Corbett - C
19. (576) Frankie Tostado - RF
20. (606) Keaton Winn - RHP
21. (636) Logan Baldwin - CF
22. (666) Greg Jacknewitz - LHP
23. (696) Shane Matheny - 3B
24. (726) Nico Giarratano - SS
25. (756) Franklin Van Gurp - RHP
26. (786) Kyle McPherson - SS
27. (816) Matt Brown - RHP
28. (846) Peter Lannoo -RHP
29. (876) Frank Rubio - RHP
30. (906) Sean Watkins - CF
31. (936) Keenan Bartlett - RHP
32. (966) Blake Rivera - RHP
33. (996) Peyton Maddox - C
34. (1026) Connor Nurse - RHP
35. (1056) Dalton Combs - RF
36. (1086) Joe Marciano - LHP
37. (1116) Andy Rohloff - RHP
38. (1146) Antonio Saldana - LHP
39. (1176) Brad Dobzanski - RHP
40. (1206) Liam Jenkins - RHP

So far: $101,600 above slot

4th rounder Garrett Cave sign for $417,200, slot value. Giants remain $101,600 over.

Still waiting on Bryce Johnson's number.

John Gavin "technically" couldn't start negotiating until yesterday (their season ended yesterday), so I expect him to be in the fold today for tomorrow. He's probably an under-slot guy, as a finesse college junior (and a Giants' fan to boot)

 

[LHG]

11-40 round that have signed

12th rounder Aaron Bond
13th rounder Tyler Schimpf
14th rounder Michael Sexton
15th rounder Orlando Garcia
16th rounder John Russell
18th rounder Chris Corbett
21st rounder Logan Baldwin
22nd rounder Greg Jacknewitz
23rd rounder Shane Matheny
24th rounder Nico Giarratano
25th rounder Franklin Van Gurp
26th rounder Kyle McPherson
27th rounder Matt Brown
28th rounder Peter Lannoo
31st rounder Keenan Bartlett
35th rounder Dalton Combs
36th rounder Joe Marciano
37th rounder Andy Rohloff

I'm guessing all of the 11-40 round guys that have signed have signed for the slot. Typically, guys after the 10th round don't negotiate until all the top 10 round picks are signed and they fight over the leftover bonus money.

Couple of interesting names in this group. Is Schimpf Ryan's brother? Is Matheny the progeny of Mike?

 

[SFGRTB]

Couple of interesting names in this group. Is Schimpf Ryan's brother? Is Matheny the progeny of Mike?

No and no

 

[Stokes1931]

Congrats, SFGRTB on 1,000 likes on the Hoop!

 

[SFGRTB]

Congrats, SFGRTB on 1,000 likes on the Hoop!

Many from venturing over to the other boards, most of those posters are much more liberal with handing out likes. Gotta earn 'em here

 

[calsnowskier]

Many from venturing over to the other boards, most of those posters are much more liberal with handing out likes. Gotta earn 'em here

Bunch of cheap bastards, here...

 

[LHG]

Many from venturing over to the other boards, most of those posters are much more liberal with handing out likes. Gotta earn 'em here

Does that make you the Sally Fields of posters?

 

[SFGRTB]

Per his instagram, 19th rounder Fankie Tostado has signed with the Giants.

 

[calsnowskier]

Per his instagram, 19th rounder Fankie Tostado has signed with the Giants.

Let the Fiesta begin!

 

[SFGRTB]

Per his instagram, 19th rounder Fankie Tostado has signed with the Giants.

Tostado signs for $175,000, $50K over the slot.

 

[SFGRTB]

Complete list (If Cal or Stokes want to update this list with signing bonuses, that'd be cool):

1. (19) Heliot Ramos - OF. Slot Value $3,101,700 (signed for $3,101,700) at slot
2. (58) Jacob Gonzalez - 3B. Slot Value $1,121,300 (signed for $950,000) below slot
3. (96) Seth Corry - LHP. Slot Value $558,500 (signed for $1,000,000) above slot
4. (126) Garrett Cave - RHP. Slot Value $417,200
5. (156) Jason Bahr - RHP. Slot Value $310,800 (signed for $250,000) below slot
6. (186) Bryce Johnson - CF. Slot Value $239,600
7. (216) Logan Harasta - RHP. Slot Value $187,800 (signed for $140,000) below slot
8. (246) John Gavin - LHP. Slot Value $154,200
9. (276) Aaron Phillips - RHP. Slot Value $140,000 (signed for $80,000) below slot
10. (306) Rob Calabrese - C. Slot Value $132,500
11. (336) Doug Still - LHP. Slot Value $125,000 (through round 40)
12. (366) Aaron Bond - CF
13. (396) Tyler Schimpf - RHP
14. (426) Michael Sexton - 3B
15. (456) Orlando Garcia - SS
16. (486) John Russell - RHP
17. (516) Brac Warren - RHP
18. (546) Chris Corbett - C
19. (576) Frankie Tostado - RF
20. (606) Keaton Winn - RHP
21. (636) Logan Baldwin - CF
22. (666) Greg Jacknewitz - LHP
23. (696) Shane Matheny - 3B
24. (726) Nico Giarratano - SS
25. (756) Franklin Van Gurp - RHP
26. (786) Kyle McPherson - SS
27. (816) Matt Brown - RHP
28. (846) Peter Lannoo -RHP
29. (876) Frank Rubio - RHP
30. (906) Sean Watkins - CF
31. (936) Keenan Bartlett - RHP
32. (966) Blake Rivera - RHP
33. (996) Peyton Maddox - C
34. (1026) Connor Nurse - RHP
35. (1056) Dalton Combs - RF
36. (1086) Joe Marciano - LHP
37. (1116) Andy Rohloff - RHP
38. (1146) Antonio Saldana - LHP
39. (1176) Brad Dobzanski - RHP
40. (1206) Liam Jenkins - RHP

So far: $101,600 above slot

10th rounder Rob Calabrese signs for $132,500, slot value.

6th rounder Bryce Johnson signed for $210,000, $29,600 under the slot.

That puts the Giants $122,000 over the slot.

So by my count, only John Gavin remains in the top 10.

The Giants have $196,180 to spend over the slot for John Gavin and the remaining 11-40 round picks.

 

[LHG]

According to Baseball America, the Giants have signed 30 of the 40 players they drafted in 2017. That includes 9 of the 10 top picks and 18 of the top 20 (they've only signed 4 of the top 10 picks). Out of the 16 position players, 14 have signed. That means 16 of the 24 pitchers have been signed.