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Ohio State springs forward as new No. 1 in 2017 top 25

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There are at least 3 other teams in the Mountain West that deserve to be ranked instead of us next year
 

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The first poll doesnt mean shit, only the last poll matters.

I agree ... you haven't won shit until you win it. I am impressed with Penn State though ... that program was almost given the death penalty but now they have brought it back to respectability.
 

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I agree ... you haven't won shit until you win it. I am impressed with Penn State though ... that program was almost given the death penalty but now they have brought it back to respectability.
I have zero respect for them after they honored JoePa last year.
 

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I have no doubt that UM 'could' have a really good defense. They are going to be starting a ton of sophomore and freshman on both offense and defense. I think calling them a top 15 team is ridiculous right now.
Other teams have issues also, somebody has to be there.
 

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I have no doubt that UM 'could' have a really good defense. They are going to be starting a ton of sophomore and freshman on both offense and defense. I think calling them a top 15 team is ridiculous right now.

This year will be a real test of how good of a coach Harbaugh is and how well he recruited. I have faith in Harbaugh ... If he wasn't good, there would not be so much hate for him (and Michigan).
 

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This year will be a real test of how good of a coach Harbaugh is and how well he recruited. I have faith in Harbaugh ... If he wasn't good, there would not be so much hate for him (and Michigan).
Pretty sure that there is a lot of hate for Justin Beiber, does that mean he's a good musician?
 

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I have no doubt that UM 'could' have a really good defense. They are going to be starting a ton of sophomore and freshman on both offense and defense. I think calling them a top 15 team is ridiculous right now.
Who else should be ahead of them? Do you think there are 15 more talented teams in the country?
 

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Pretty sure that there is a lot of hate for Justin Beiber, does that mean he's a good musician?

Does Justin Bieber threaten your manhood? I am not a Justin Bieber fan, I don't like his music (or whatever they call it), but I don't hate him. I hate ohio state ... because ohio state is good. ohio state has been kicking our asses lately which makes me hate them even more, but I would still hate them if we were kicking their asses.
 

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Who else should be ahead of them? Do you think there are 15 more talented teams in the country?

I don't think there are 15 more talented teams, but every single team is more experienced. I think UM could earn a top 15 ranking, but today, it is nothing more question marks across the board. DL is about the only spot with everyone returning with experience.

If they had some juniors or seniors filling roles who had 2,3,4 years in a college strength program and learning the system -- I'd be more comfortable. I can see a lot of mistakes and learning on the fly.
 

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This year will be a real test of how good of a coach Harbaugh is and how well he recruited. I have faith in Harbaugh ... If he wasn't good, there would not be so much hate for him (and Michigan).

I've seen this tact from you before. "Michigan/Harbaugh must be good because people hate us." It's a nice idea, but decidedly false.

I'd make a wager that the majority of the hatred comes from the fact that Michigan hasn't been good for a long, long time, yet Michigan fans think they have been. The Harbaugh signing exacerbated it.

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I've seen this tact from you before. "Michigan/Harbaugh must be good because people hate us." It's a nice idea, but decidedly false.

I'd make a wager that the majority of the hatred comes from the fact that Michigan hasn't been good for a long, long time, yet Michigan fans think they have been. The Harbaugh signing exacerbated it.

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Yeah that dude's a fag
 

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This year will be a real test of how good of a coach Harbaugh is and how well he recruited. I have faith in Harbaugh ... If he wasn't good, there would not be so much hate for him (and Michigan).
There is much less hate for MI than there is for tOSU. Winning does that. MI needs a NC this century for there to be any real hate.
 

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I've seen this tact from you before. "Michigan/Harbaugh must be good because people hate us." It's a nice idea, but decidedly false.

I'd make a wager that the majority of the hatred comes from the fact that Michigan hasn't been good for a long, long time, yet Michigan fans think they have been. The Harbaugh signing exacerbated it.

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I can read our past records and I am under no illusions has been the top team lately, but hate comes from a special place. I don't hate Michigan State because they have pretty much owned us over the last decade. ohio state, however, is another story. Again, you guts have owned us lately ... and I am not so bold as to say that will end soon, but I expect a coach and players to play with the hate ohio state deserves. Rich Rod did not understand that ... Brady Hoke understood it but could not close. Jim Harbaugh understands and Urban Meyer understands. Maybe ... just maybe we can begin to fight back. I am a results type person ... I love Michigan's history but I know it means nothing ... beating ohio state on the field (not just once but regularly) is the only answer.
 
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