Arrowverse: Arrow, Batwoman, Black Lightning, Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Supergirl, Superman & Lois

The Q · Apr 27, 2017

I enjoyed this week's episode of Arrow.

It was darker and grittier.

It should have some serious repercussions.

calsnowskier · Apr 27, 2017

The Q said:
She clearly recognized who it was.

My only other thought is it was Wally West, because of

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His catatonic state after seeing whatever he saw that one night.

if it was Barry he probably would've freaked out when Barry went to visit him.

And why would Frost be super excited to help a Barry Allen?

The Q · Apr 27, 2017

calsnowskier said:
And why would Frost be super excited to help a Barry Allen?

Probably because of how badly it would fuck everyone over.

But I gotta say....I really am starting to think it's Ronnie Raymond.

Didn't he get sucked into the speed force during the Singularity?

calsnowskier · Apr 27, 2017

The Q said:
Probably because of how badly it would fuck everyone over.

But I gotta say....I really am starting to think it's Ronnie Raymond.

Didn't he get sucked into the speed force during the Singularity?

Ronnie was her fiancé? Yea, that's my thought right now. But it is a bit of Ann out-of-left-field reveal.

Is Ammell doing anything right now? Is he available to do a longish arc? Or will they even keep him around into next season?

The Q · Apr 27, 2017

calsnowskier said:
Ronnie was her fiancé? Yea, that's my thought right now. But it is a bit of Ann out-of-left-field reveal.

Is Ammell doing anything right now? Is he available to do a longish arc? Or will they even keep him around into next season?

Does he need to be? He needs to be around for like 4 episodes lol.

calsnowskier · Apr 27, 2017

The Q said:
Does he need to be? He needs to be around for like 4 episodes lol.

That was covered in my sentence...

The Q · Apr 27, 2017

calsnowskier said:
That was covered in my sentence...

Idk, i don't consider 4 episodes to be "longish."

So maybe that's the disconnect.

calsnowskier · Apr 28, 2017

The Q said:
Idk, i don't consider 4 episodes to be "longish."

So maybe that's the disconnect.

But then I asked if they would even want him into next season.

Anyway, we are in agreement. It is only an issue if they extend the character into next year.

The Q · Apr 28, 2017

calsnowskier said:
But then I asked if they would even want him into next season.

Anyway, we are in agreement. It is only an issue if they extend the character into next year.

I doubt it.

They haven't done that with Thawne or Zoom really (just the zombie like character in LOT).

Plus, if you believe the preview for next week, Barry knows he is now, something that the previous incarnation of Barry did not.

MilkSpiller22 · Apr 28, 2017

@The Q ,@calsnowskier

MAYBE::::

we were commenting earlier how Killer frost just basically flipped the switch from being good to evil... maybe she is acting as a spy... we were also wondering the smile and why she agreed to work with Savitar so fast, maybe that is the evidence that she is still good?? Maybe this is how Barry might now know who savitar is!!!

don't forget, the future that she is evil, but that future she didn't know about originally... yes it is a time travel paradox, but did she fear killer frost so much because she knew she would turn into her, or because she just didn't want to turn into her??

The Q · Apr 28, 2017

MilkSpiller22 said:
@The Q ,@calsnowskier

MAYBE::::

we were commenting earlier how Killer frost just basically flipped the switch from being good to evil... maybe she is acting as a spy... we were also wondering the smile and why she agreed to work with Savitar so fast, maybe that is the evidence that she is still good?? Maybe this is how Barry might now know who savitar is!!!

don't forget, the future that she is evil, but that future she didn't know about originally... yes it is a time travel paradox, but did she fear killer frost so much because she knew she would turn into her, or because she just didn't want to turn into her??

Killer Frost already tried to kill Barry and Cisco. She is evil by nature.

And when Cisco vibed her, he saw the same fight that they showed in this episode....except this time they showed us how it ends...

MilkSpiller22 · Apr 28, 2017

The Q said:
Killer Frost already tried to kill Barry and Cisco. She is evil by nature.

And when Cisco vibed her, he saw the same fight that they showed in this episode....except this time they showed us how it ends...

no, that attack was for Savitar... you cant just pretend to be evil, you need to act evil...

just saying it is a possibility... Kind of fits...

The Q · Apr 28, 2017

MilkSpiller22 said:
no, that attack was for Savitar... you cant just pretend to be evil, you need to act evil...

just saying it is a possibility... Kind of fits...

She may end up betraying Savitar, but I would bet it's because it benefits her personally, not because it helps Barry out.

MilkSpiller22 · Apr 28, 2017

The Q said:
She may end up betraying Savitar, but I would bet it's because it benefits her personally, not because it helps Barry out.

your probably right... and I am not saying I think that she is a spy... But the evidence is there for it to at least be a possibility...

The Q · Apr 28, 2017

MilkSpiller22 said:
your probably right... and I am not saying I think that she is a spy... But the evidence is there for it to at least be a possibility...

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She tried to kill everyone in the lab.

And even said when Barry got there something like "oh good, now i get to kill all of you at once"

I mean, it's a heck of a red herring

My thought was that the only 2 people who she would immediately agree to work with were Ronnie or Zolomon. But Zolomon is a zombie and having the same bad guy for 2 seasons in a show is a shaky move.

If it is someone already on the team, it would make sense because she'd know it would devastate them.

calsnowskier · Apr 28, 2017

Another thought...

Frost seems to hate everyone Snow loves (primarily the team). So why assume that Frost would still love Ronnie? That would not be consistent logic.

This line of thought only leads to Thrawn or Zoloman. But both are "dead" now, so that wouldn't really work.

calsnowskier · Apr 28, 2017

Maybe SHE is Savitar?

The Q · Apr 28, 2017

calsnowskier said:
Another thought...

Frost seems to hate everyone Snow loves (primarily the team). So why assume that Frost would still love Ronnie? That would not be consistent logic.

This line of thought only leads to Thrawn or Zoloman. But both are "dead" now, so that wouldn't really work.

I will say that Ronnie was a different kind of love.

But I agree that Thawne is the one they've made it seem like.

It's clear she knows who Savitar was though.

MilkSpiller22 · Apr 28, 2017

calsnowskier said:
Another thought...

Frost seems to hate everyone Snow loves (primarily the team). So why assume that Frost would still love Ronnie? That would not be consistent logic.

This line of thought only leads to Thrawn or Zoloman. But both are "dead" now, so that wouldn't really work.

Except in the earth 2 arc, Ronnie and killer frost were a couple still

MilkSpiller22 · May 3, 2017

it was a popular theory, and from the beginning of the episode this week we knew where it was taking us...

I really hope they explain this well though... Hope either next week or the week after is an episode about the HOW Savitar was created...

Kind of tired of the the future coming to the past without an explanation of how this future was created because once it comes to the past the future is rewritten...

I mean, the whole premise of THIS DC world was that future Reverse flash comes to the past and changes time... We never got a glimpse of the original world and what it should look like...

They really cant keep on doing this and just hoping we don't ask that question...

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