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mall3013 · Mar 28, 2017

Bamabino said:
The numbers don't lie. The B1G is weak. Bama 38-0 over MSU. Clemson 31-0 over OSU, and in the playoffs no less.

Can't be that weak.. The B1G is back and will be a much stronger conference this season than last. So you throw up a couple of bowl games of a beatdown. I can do the same. It wasn't that long ago.

socaljim242 · Mar 28, 2017

“The penultimate Saturday on the schedule is arguably the most stressful of the entire season: division titles hang in the balance, style point currency fluctuations are at their most volatile and every contender is ripe for an upset ahead of facing their designated arch-rivals.

Title contenders know this too well. That Saturday is dark, terrifying, full of spiders and littered with land mines. It’s virtually impossible to recover from a loss that late in the season.

Anyway, here are some of the schools SEC teams have scheduled for that Saturday since 2012: Samford, Chattanooga, Coastal Carolina, Western Carolina, Eastern Kentucky and South Alabama. Georgia Southern, Idaho, FAU, Charlotte and Citadel all twice. Charleston Southern three times…

Chickenshit Saturday is indefensible, and there isn’t a wanking motion theatrical enough to accommodate the circular logic of the conference strength argument because you can always schedule Samford in September. The best football player in Charleston Southern football history isn’t even good enough to get unexpectedly cut by Nick Saban in August to make room for a new recruit.

November schedules should contain conference opponents or designated rivals only. This improves the sport, enhances the most captivating month on the schedule and levels the playing field without any controversy.”

ellupo · Mar 28, 2017

Gator said:
Of course YOU would make this comment. That SOP for TROJAN-MAN. It has nothing to do with PRESEASON RANKINGS. It is a computerized analysis of ALL games ACTUALLY played.

If it does not use rankings, how does it decide what is a tough game?

Gator · Mar 28, 2017

socaljim242 said:
“The penultimate Saturday on the schedule is arguably the most stressful of the entire season: division titles hang in the balance, style point currency fluctuations are at their most volatile and every contender is ripe for an upset ahead of facing their designated arch-rivals.

Title contenders know this too well. That Saturday is dark, terrifying, full of spiders and littered with land mines. It’s virtually impossible to recover from a loss that late in the season.

Anyway, here are some of the schools SEC teams have scheduled for that Saturday since 2012: Samford, Chattanooga, Coastal Carolina, Western Carolina, Eastern Kentucky and South Alabama. Georgia Southern, Idaho, FAU, Charlotte and Citadel all twice. Charleston Southern three times…

Chickenshit Saturday is indefensible, and there isn’t a wanking motion theatrical enough to accommodate the circular logic of the conference strength argument because you can always schedule Samford in September. The best football player in Charleston Southern football history isn’t even good enough to get unexpectedly cut by Nick Saban in August to make room for a new recruit.

November schedules should contain conference opponents or designated rivals only. This improves the sport, enhances the most captivating month on the schedule and levels the playing field without any controversy.”

So, which Jackass USC fan are you quoting this time?

“The penultimate Saturday on the schedule is arguably the most stressful of the entire season: division titles hang in the balance, style point currency fluctuations are at their most volatile and every contender is ripe for an upset ahead of facing their designated arch-rivals...."

This COMPLETE and UTTER BS.

The last week of 2016 when the PAC supposedly played their "designated arch-rivals", their "arch rivals" were a combined 71-79 (11 P5 and 1 G5). Only 4 opponents had winning records! What the hell is stressful about that schedule!!!! The prior week was tougher as the PAC played teams that were a combined 84-68 (12 P5).

Compare that to the SEC schedule.
The last week of 2016 when the SEC played their "designated arch-rivals", those "arch rivals" were a combined 117-66. ALL 14 games were against P5 teams with 4 OOC Ranked teams. That's stressful!!! The entire PAC played 36 OOC games and only 3 were ranked.

Olyduck · Mar 28, 2017

unsure how this relates to clowns, driving off bridges and marionettes

4down20 · Mar 28, 2017

52-6
24-7

That should cover the butthurt in this thread.

socaljim242 · Mar 28, 2017

Gator said:
So, which Jackass USC fan are you quoting this time?

“The penultimate Saturday on the schedule is arguably the most stressful of the entire season: division titles hang in the balance, style point currency fluctuations are at their most volatile and every contender is ripe for an upset ahead of facing their designated arch-rivals...."

This COMPLETE and UTTER BS.

The last week of 2016 when the PAC supposedly played their "designated arch-rivals", their "arch rivals" were a combined 71-79 (11 P5 and 1 G5). Only 4 opponents had winning records! What the hell is stressful about that schedule!!!! The prior week was tougher as the PAC played teams that were a combined 84-68 (12 P5).

Compare that to the SEC schedule.
The last week of 2016 when the SEC played their "designated arch-rivals", those "arch rivals" were a combined 117-66. ALL 14 games were against P5 teams with 4 OOC Ranked teams. That's stressful!!! The entire PAC played 36 OOC games and only 3 were ranked.

Wow you mean the last week of the season you guys played P5 teams. Well good for you. I'm sure playing Towsend and Troy and Southern Carolina and Mercer and Chattanooga first cpl weeks of November was brutal also.
Oh and the PAC had three teams ranked higher than 13 SEC teams last season. Crunch those numbers Gator fan.lol

Gator · Mar 28, 2017

socaljim242 said:
Wow you mean the last week of the season you guys played P5 teams. Well good for you. I'm sure playing Towsend and Troy and Southern Carolina and Mercer and Chattanooga first cpl weeks of November was brutal also.

Nice change of tune. I have to give you props for perseverance. Every time you get shot down for saying something stupid you pop right back up with something even dumber.

socaljim242 said:
Oh and the PAC had three teams ranked higher than 13 SEC teams last season. Crunch those numbers Gator fan.lol

That's because the weak-ass PAC only played and lost to the SEC 3 times last year (combined score of 107-37). If the PAC actually scheduled more SEC teams the PAC would have had ZERO ranked teams.

USCDoom · Mar 28, 2017

Gator said:
Nice change of tune. I have to give you props for perseverance. Every time you get shot down for saying something stupid you pop right back up with something even dumber.

That's because the weak-ass PAC only played and lost to the SEC 3 times last year (combined score of 107-37). If the PAC actually scheduled more SEC teams the PAC would have had ZERO ranked teams.

If Florida ever left Florida to play a OOC game they would never be ranked...

Unlike the Pac though, Florida will never do that...

gpm1976 · Mar 28, 2017

Gator said:
Nice change of tune. I have to give you props for perseverance. Every time you get shot down for saying something stupid you pop right back up with something even dumber.

That's because the weak-ass PAC only played and lost to the SEC 3 times last year (combined score of 107-37). If the PAC actually scheduled more SEC teams the PAC would have had ZERO ranked teams.

Wait a minute!!! 2 of those losses came against Bama, one of the top teams in the nation. The SEC in general was NOT loaded last year. It was Bama at the top and no one else was close. If some PAC teams had scheduled UF last year, they'd probably have a couple of wins.

socaljim242 · Mar 28, 2017

This article is from 2015 but still relevant because Florida still hasnt played a true OCC game on the road since it was written.

The inaugural year of the College Football Playoff has taught us one very important lesson: losses matter. Three of the four teams to make the four-team playoff suffered a loss during the regular season, with Florida State boasting the only unblemished record heading into the New Year's Day semifinals. The term "quality loss" became an everyday utterance in the buildup to the playoff, suggesting that maybe the committee would look at the quality of a team's schedule and not just the loss column, or at least be more willing to do so than the polls.

In thinking about the idea of quality losses, and how much credit should be given (or denied) for teams scheduling non-conference games, it is interesting to compare the scheduling by Florida State and Florida over the last quarter century.

Included below is a table dating back to the last time the University of Florida scheduled and won a non-conference road game outside the state of Florida, along with FSU's games of the same ilk during that span. Not included, of course, are bowl games, which teams have no power in scheduling ahead of time.

UF Year FSU
None 2014 vs. Oklahoma St. in Arlington, TX (37-31 W)
None 2013 None
None 2012 None
None 2011 None
None 2010 at No. 10 Oklahoma (47-17 L)
None 2009 at No. 9 BYU (54-28 W)
None 2008 None
None 2007 at Colorado (16-6 W)
None 2006 None
None 2005 None
None 2004 at Syracuse (17-13 W)
None 2003 at Notre Dame (37-0 W)
None 2002 vs. Iowa St. in Kansas City, MO (38-31 W)
at Louisville (26-20 L)
None 2001 None
None 2000 None
None 1999 None
None 1998 vs. No. 14 Texas A&M in East Rutherford, NJ (23-14 W)
None 1997 at No. 21 Southern Cal (14-7 W)
None 1996 None
None 1995 None
None 1994 None
None 1993 vs. Kansas in East Rutherford, NJ (42-0 W)
at No. 2 Notre Dame (31-24 L)
None 1992 None
at Syracuse (38-21 L) 1991 vs. No. 19 BYU in Anaheim, CA (44-28 W)
at No. 3 Michigan (51-31 W)
at LSU (27-16 W)
at Louisville (40-15 W)
None 1990 at Tulane (31-13 W)
at No. 5 Auburn (20-17 L)
at South Carolina (41-10 W)
at Memphis St. (38-13 W) 1989 at No. 21 LSU (31-21 W)
at No. 17 Syracuse (41-10 W)
at Virginia Tech (41-7 W)
That's right. Florida has not played an out-of-conference game outside the state of Florida since 1991 and hasn't won one since 1989.

Let's put that into perspective: the last time the Gators scheduled, and beat, a non-conference opponent outside of Florida, the average price of gas in the US, per Energy.gov, was $0.90 a gallon. The number one song, according to Billboard.com, was Milli Vanilli's "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You." And George Bush was still settling into the White House -- the first George Bush.

In that same span of time, Florida State has played outside its home state 22 times against OOC teams, 10 of which were ranked (10 came prior to 1992, when FSU began its ACC football affiliation). Still, the 'Noles have dominated that competition outside of the Sunshine State, amassing a record of 18-4 in such games since 1989.

Every one of those games came against a team now in a Power 5 conference with the exception of Tulane, two contests with BYU in which the Cougars were ranked each time, and a pair of showdowns with Notre Dame, the first of which, of course, earned the billing of "The Game of the Century."

Of those 22 games, 14 came against teams that played in a bowl that year. Florida’s last such contest, a loss at Syracuse, came at the hands of an Orange squad that the ‘Noles beat 46-14.

The last OOC game UF won came against a 2-9 Memphis State team (all the way back when it was still called Memphis State, as opposed to Memphis).

The last non-conference regular-season win for the Gators outside the state of Florida against a team that finished with a winning record? Buckle up, because this one took some digging. It occurred against a 5-3-1 North Carolina State team in Raleigh.

In 1947.

Yes: the most recent UF victory over a winning OOC team outside of Florida came in the same year that FSU began playing college football.

And perhaps that sheds some light on all of this. The truth is that, historically, and, for our purposes here, especially since 1989, the Gators have had enough trouble holding their own in non-conference, in-state games against the other members of Florida's big three. In that stretch, UF is 12-15-1 against FSU and 1-5 vs. Miami, a combined record of 13-20-1, and these were all games played within Florida, excepting four neutral-site bowl games.

15 of these games even took place in Gainesville.

Based on UF's history of losing non-conference games, especially on the road, and its difficult SEC schedule (albeit more difficult now than it was for the earlier parts of this stretch), UF's scheduling practices have made sense. It has certainly never been penalized for it.

Florida State is continuing to schedule difficult games, with Alabama in 2017 looking likely, road games at Notre Dame in 2018 and 2024, and a trip to Boise State in 2020.

But the Gators will be breaking this ignominious streak in 2017, when they'll travel to Arlington, TX to take on the Michigan Wolverines. With no other non-conference road trips on the schedule, however, it remains to be seen whether Florida will step out of its comfort zone for long. * its at a Neutral site. The streak continues.

Odd that this Stat loving , fact finding Gator fan couldn't find this nugget. lol

Gator · Mar 28, 2017

socaljim242 said:
This article is from 2015 but still relevant because Florida still hasnt played a true OCC game on the road since it was written.

The inaugural year of the College Football Playoff has taught us one very important lesson: losses matter. Three of the four teams to make the four-team playoff suffered a loss during the regular season, with Florida State boasting the only unblemished record heading into the New Year's Day semifinals. The term "quality loss" became an everyday utterance in the buildup to the playoff, suggesting that maybe the committee would look at the quality of a team's schedule and not just the loss column, or at least be more willing to do so than the polls.

In thinking about the idea of quality losses, and how much credit should be given (or denied) for teams scheduling non-conference games, it is interesting to compare the scheduling by Florida State and Florida over the last quarter century.

Included below is a table dating back to the last time the University of Florida scheduled and won a non-conference road game outside the state of Florida, along with FSU's games of the same ilk during that span. Not included, of course, are bowl games, which teams have no power in scheduling ahead of time.

UF Year FSU
None 2014 vs. Oklahoma St. in Arlington, TX (37-31 W)
None 2013 None
None 2012 None
None 2011 None
None 2010 at No. 10 Oklahoma (47-17 L)
None 2009 at No. 9 BYU (54-28 W)
None 2008 None
None 2007 at Colorado (16-6 W)
None 2006 None
None 2005 None
None 2004 at Syracuse (17-13 W)
None 2003 at Notre Dame (37-0 W)
None 2002 vs. Iowa St. in Kansas City, MO (38-31 W)
at Louisville (26-20 L)
None 2001 None
None 2000 None
None 1999 None
None 1998 vs. No. 14 Texas A&M in East Rutherford, NJ (23-14 W)
None 1997 at No. 21 Southern Cal (14-7 W)
None 1996 None
None 1995 None
None 1994 None
None 1993 vs. Kansas in East Rutherford, NJ (42-0 W)
at No. 2 Notre Dame (31-24 L)
None 1992 None
at Syracuse (38-21 L) 1991 vs. No. 19 BYU in Anaheim, CA (44-28 W)
at No. 3 Michigan (51-31 W)
at LSU (27-16 W)
at Louisville (40-15 W)
None 1990 at Tulane (31-13 W)
at No. 5 Auburn (20-17 L)
at South Carolina (41-10 W)
at Memphis St. (38-13 W) 1989 at No. 21 LSU (31-21 W)
at No. 17 Syracuse (41-10 W)
at Virginia Tech (41-7 W)
That's right. Florida has not played an out-of-conference game outside the state of Florida since 1991 and hasn't won one since 1989.

Let's put that into perspective: the last time the Gators scheduled, and beat, a non-conference opponent outside of Florida, the average price of gas in the US, per Energy.gov, was $0.90 a gallon. The number one song, according to Billboard.com, was Milli Vanilli's "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You." And George Bush was still settling into the White House -- the first George Bush.

In that same span of time, Florida State has played outside its home state 22 times against OOC teams, 10 of which were ranked (10 came prior to 1992, when FSU began its ACC football affiliation). Still, the 'Noles have dominated that competition outside of the Sunshine State, amassing a record of 18-4 in such games since 1989.

Every one of those games came against a team now in a Power 5 conference with the exception of Tulane, two contests with BYU in which the Cougars were ranked each time, and a pair of showdowns with Notre Dame, the first of which, of course, earned the billing of "The Game of the Century."

Of those 22 games, 14 came against teams that played in a bowl that year. Florida’s last such contest, a loss at Syracuse, came at the hands of an Orange squad that the ‘Noles beat 46-14.

The last OOC game UF won came against a 2-9 Memphis State team (all the way back when it was still called Memphis State, as opposed to Memphis).

The last non-conference regular-season win for the Gators outside the state of Florida against a team that finished with a winning record? Buckle up, because this one took some digging. It occurred against a 5-3-1 North Carolina State team in Raleigh.

In 1947.

Yes: the most recent UF victory over a winning OOC team outside of Florida came in the same year that FSU began playing college football.

And perhaps that sheds some light on all of this. The truth is that, historically, and, for our purposes here, especially since 1989, the Gators have had enough trouble holding their own in non-conference, in-state games against the other members of Florida's big three. In that stretch, UF is 12-15-1 against FSU and 1-5 vs. Miami, a combined record of 13-20-1, and these were all games played within Florida, excepting four neutral-site bowl games.

15 of these games even took place in Gainesville.

Based on UF's history of losing non-conference games, especially on the road, and its difficult SEC schedule (albeit more difficult now than it was for the earlier parts of this stretch), UF's scheduling practices have made sense. It has certainly never been penalized for it.

Florida State is continuing to schedule difficult games, with Alabama in 2017 looking likely, road games at Notre Dame in 2018 and 2024, and a trip to Boise State in 2020.

But the Gators will be breaking this ignominious streak in 2017, when they'll travel to Arlington, TX to take on the Michigan Wolverines. With no other non-conference road trips on the schedule, however, it remains to be seen whether Florida will step out of its comfort zone for long. * its at a Neutral site. The streak continues.

Odd that this Stat loving , fact finding Gator fan couldn't find this nugget. lol

Yawn, yawn, yawn. You can visit all the FSU board that you want and it won't change the fact that UF plays a better schedule on average than either FSU or USC. So go ahead and focus on OOC games all you want because it isn't going to harm UF's chances to get in any playoff. Every time UF won the NC it was because UF passed other teams to get into the NC game due to UF's superior SOS.

Since 1990 (non-Bowls) UF has played MORE T25 teams AWAY than USC (48 to 47), played MORE T25 teams at HOME than USC (46 to 42), and played MORE at NEUTRAL sites than USC (28-5). That means that UF has played 28 more Top 25 teams in the past 27 years than USC (that's right 1 more T25 team per year than the "traveling fools" USC).

By the way since 1947 FSU has beaten an OOC team with a winning record out-side of Florida exactly TWICE. Once in 1949 when FSU was a member of the Dixie AC (2-0 in conference!) they beat Sewanee. And, once vs BYU in 2009.

Recall independents DON"T HAVE OOC or IN-Conference games as they AREN'T IN a conference.

socaljim242 · Mar 28, 2017

Gator said:
Yawn, yawn, yawn. You can visit all the FSU board that you want and it won't change the fact that UF plays a better schedule on average than either FSU or USC. So go ahead and focus on OOC games all you want because it isn't going to harm UF's chances to get in any playoff. Every time UF won the NC it was because UF passed other teams to get into the NC game due to UF's superior SOS.

Since 1990 (non-Bowls) UF has played MORE T25 teams AWAY than USC (48 to 47), played MORE T25 teams at HOME than USC (46 to 42), and played MORE at NEUTRAL sites than USC (28-5). That means that UF has played 28 more Top 25 teams in the past 27 years than USC (that's right 1 more T25 team per year than the "traveling fools" USC).

By the way since 1947 FSU has beaten an OOC team with a winning record out-side of Florida exactly TWICE. Once in 1949 when FSU was a member of the Dixie AC (2-0 in conference!) they beat Sewanee. And, once vs BYU in 2009.

Recall independents DON"T HAVE OOC or IN-Conference games as they AREN'T IN a conference.

I can't believe you want to argue whether it was 1947 or 1949 the last time Florida left the State of Florida and beat on OCC team with a winning record. lol. That's priceless.

You didn't play BYU in 2009.
2009 Florida played-
Charleston Southern
Troy
FIU I know it looks like BYU but it's not. What a sad lineup.

And FYI. Byu didn't turn independent till the 2011 season. And if you play them (don't hold your breath), they would still be an OCC game. It's Out Of Conference game. Which means they aren't in your conference.
You need someone to proofread your posts before you hit send.

Gator · Mar 28, 2017

socaljim242 said:
I can't believe you want to argue whether it was 1947 or 1949 the last time Florida left the State of Florida and beat on OCC team with a winning record. lol. That's priceless.

You didn't play BYU in 2009.
2009 Florida played-
Charleston Southern
Troy
FIU I know it looks like BYU but it's not. What a sad lineup.

And FYI. Byu didn't turn independent till the 2011 season. And if you play them (don't hold your breath), they would still be an OCC game. It's Out Of Conference game. Which means they aren't in your conference.
You need someone to proofread your posts before you hit send.

OMG, you can't be that DUMB. I listed the games for FSU (i.e., Florida State University) not UF!!!!!

BTW, there IS something you can come back on me for but I'll let you find it.

socaljim242 · Mar 28, 2017

Gator said:
OMG, you can't be that DUMB. I listed the games for FSU (i.e., Florida State University) not UF!!!!!

BTW, there IS something you can come back on me for but I'll let you find it.

So you can't win an argument with your team so you pick a different team from a different college? LOL

tnapucco · Mar 28, 2017

I think the Florida legislature should make them change their name from the GATAS to the PUSSIES. The Florida Pussies. Change the name of "the Swamp" to "Grannie's Panties".

Gator · Mar 28, 2017

socaljim242 said:
So you can't win an argument with your team so you pick a different team from a different college? LOL

OK, you ARE that dumb!!!

Gator · Mar 28, 2017

tnapucco said:
I think the Florida legislature should make them change their name from the GATAS to the PUSSIES. The Florida Pussies. Change the name of "the Swamp" to "Grannie's Panties".

We all know that the OU got their nickname during the early years of their now-annual circle-jerk with that team from Texas. OU came first and hence "won" the title of "Sooners" and Texas got the name "Laters". OU was SOOOO proud that they won anything and so kept their nickname. But, Texas was embarrassed by the loss and changed their name to the Long Horns. And the rest is history!

BTW, What is OU's record vs The Florida Pussies?? The highest scoring offense in the land NEVER LEAD in the game, got held to a measly 373 yards, and scored just 14 points. Bwahahaha!!!

TROJAN-MAN · Mar 28, 2017

ericd7633 said:
Holy shit...Preseason polls have no bearing on strength of schedule.

They do going into week 4 after play 3 cupcakes, some would suggest their P/S rankings would be justified

Gator · Mar 28, 2017

TROJAN-MAN said:
They do going into week 4 after play 3 cupcakes, some would suggest their P/S rankings would be justified

Are you alluding to PAC scheduling or SEC scheduling?

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