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The Hardys back to WWE?

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I remember listening to a Billy Corgan interview while he was with TNA and he was adamant about Broken Matt being almost entirely Matt Hardy's brainchild.
The WWE can get away with alienating talent. They're the biggest company in the world by a wide margin. TNAs not in that position. Seems like a mistake. Who would trust this company now?


Well, to be fair, there's a big difference between who came up with it (brainchild) and who owns it. TNA could very well be within their legal rights. It just a very very VERY stupid thing to do right now. They literally gain nothing from this. Even if they win a legal case, its not like Hardy is going to work for them. They'll basically just own "the Broken universe" but be able to not doing anything with it because its not like you can recast. And then there's all the massive amount of bad publicity they are getting right now at a time when they should be going for good press since they just relaunched.
 

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I never brought up the legal aspect of it as I have no idea who would win in court. I do think it's unethical to keep someone from making a living off of their own creative ideas when it doesn't hurt your company in any way. This isn't WCW vs WWF. I don't consider them direct competitors. It's better for both TNA and ROH interests to have a good working relationship ship with one another. This sets an early warning sign on how the new TNA interacts with other companies.

I agree, it's bad PR for them in the short term with some fans. Longterm I wonder if it hurts their standing with talent. Signing a big name from Japan or the indies who's in their prime would be the best way to get new viewers to the show. If they come across as petty on stuff like this it might hurt recruitment.
 

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I remember listening to a Billy Corgan interview while he was with TNA and he was adamant about Broken Matt being almost entirely Matt Hardy's brainchild.
The WWE can get away with alienating talent. They're the biggest company in the world by a wide margin. TNAs not in that position. Seems like a mistake. Who would trust this company now?
Nobody except wrestlers who worked for JJ in GFW.
 

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The Hardys back to WWE looks to be a done deal. Sources said earlier this week WWE had offered them a new contract and today, the Hardys personal online store closed. Not hard to put 2 and 2 together
 

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The Hardys showing up at WM is potentially one of the best moments in modern wrestling.
 

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The Hardys showing up at WM is potentially one of the best moments in modern wrestling.

They need to do something. That WM card is tragic. 12 matches and maybe 2 to 3 are worth a damn
 

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They need to do something. That WM card is tragic. 12 matches and maybe 2 to 3 are worth a damn
I disagree with that. Owens/Jericho, Ambrose/Corbin, Wyatt/Orton, Taker/Reigns should be a really good match despite people hating what the outcome will be, I think Shane/AJ could steal the show, Neville and Aries could also steal the show. I'm not sure how the match will be, but the Miz/Cena mixed tag match has had one of the best builds of the Mania season.
 

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It's Mania so I'm looking forward to the show but I think it's more about the storyline payoffs than the match quality.
UT's looked in rough shape for a few years but it's worse than that now. I'm excited to see if Roman turns heel. If they're going to pull the trigger this would be the time. If he's not a pure heel on the Raw after WM it's not happening in the next few years.
AJ vs Shane needs stipulations. Shane can't have a regular 20 minute match but if they make it a street fight it can have some crazy spots. This won't be great in the Savage/Steamboat sense but it can be entertaining.
Owens/Jericho should be good but I'm not sure if Jericho is capable of a great match at this point of his career. Jericho's charisma and promos are still off the charts and if he has a great match left Owens can get it out of him. Probably my guess for match of the night.
Neville/Aries has the highest ceiling as both guys are capable of stealing the show but they need 20-25 minutes like the big matches are going to get and the crowd needs to be invested. This could be match of the year caliber or a 12 minute preshow match time filler.

Kind of meh on everything else.
TLDR; mania is designed as a spectacle for the casual fans. I don't see greatness in the matches this year.
 

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The Hardys showing up at WM is potentially one of the best moments in modern wrestling.

Best moment would be winning the smack down tag titles, then the raw tag titles at wrestlemania, destroy this lame competition on both shows and actually make tag team exciting again. I think the negotiations between vince and roh has been for the hardys to bring the gold in with them. Thats all story line though, because in the ring, Matt Hardy has sucked for the past few years.

The rest of the matches, HHH, Shane, Undertaker, just all jokes. None of them deserve to just get matches at the biggest events. I dont know if I will take the free month again or not.

I still dont know how anyone can consider reigns a baby face, he is right down the middle like Cena, but the kid does not deserve the shit he takes. Can you do a heel turn against a guy that is basically against everybody? Taker has no friends, no allegiances, how would beating taker lead to being a heel?
 

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Since we are talking about WM here.....

Something to keep a eye on. There building a rollercoaster for the stage
 
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Since we are talking about WM here.....

Something to keep a eye on. There building a rollercoaster for the stage

Thats just for HHH's million dollar entrance.
 

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Best moment would be winning the smack down tag titles, then the raw tag titles at wrestlemania, destroy this lame competition on both shows and actually make tag team exciting again. I think the negotiations between vince and roh has been for the hardys to bring the gold in with them. Thats all story line though, because in the ring, Matt Hardy has sucked for the past few years.

The rest of the matches, HHH, Shane, Undertaker, just all jokes. None of them deserve to just get matches at the biggest events. I dont know if I will take the free month again or not.

I still dont know how anyone can consider reigns a baby face, he is right down the middle like Cena, but the kid does not deserve the shit he takes. Can you do a heel turn against a guy that is basically against everybody? Taker has no friends, no allegiances, how would beating taker lead to being a heel?
You have to be the worst, most uninformed wrestling fan alive.
 

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You have to be the worst, most uninformed wrestling fan alive.

Which parts? The parts where superstars from other places like Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode, Austin Aries and the like are not ready for the main roster, while Styles skyrockets to the top? Are they simply people that said no opposed to the ones that were never asked? All Styles is here to do is fill the vacuum left by the yes fans. Look at Brian Danielson and AJ Styles 10-15 years ago, same small skinny kids. Why did he deserve to get pushed over all these "weekly hard workers that deserve more" that I read so much about on this forum?

Am I wrong that Matt Hardy looks pretty terrible in the ring, square or hexagon? I mean are we watching wrestling or do you want General Hospital?

On a side note, sex tape Xavier and his crew are hosting wrestlemania and will be thrusting hips to millions of fans, Goldberg took out Lesnar with another spear which seals his fate at wrestlemania.
 

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Which parts? The parts where superstars from other places like Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode, Austin Aries and the like are not ready for the main roster, while Styles skyrockets to the top? Are they simply people that said no opposed to the ones that were never asked? All Styles is here to do is fill the vacuum left by the yes fans. Look at Brian Danielson and AJ Styles 10-15 years ago, same small skinny kids. Why did he deserve to get pushed over all these "weekly hard workers that deserve more" that I read so much about on this forum?

Am I wrong that Matt Hardy looks pretty terrible in the ring, square or hexagon? I mean are we watching wrestling or do you want General Hospital?

On a side note, sex tape Xavier and his crew are hosting wrestlemania and will be thrusting hips to millions of fans, Goldberg took out Lesnar with another spear which seals his fate at wrestlemania.
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Hard for me to take interviews like that seriously. Might very well be genuine, but I highly doubt it.
 

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Are you calling Robert Roode a lyer?

Re-reading his interview, pretty sure he revealed that he wants to be on the main roster. There has been a number of guys in the history of this business that have struggled at picking up the WWE style, including Chris Jericho. Roode may very well be one of those guys, its hard to know for sure. Haven't heard of any incidents about him though and he is still the NXT Champion. He also worked on national television for almost 12 years, prior to signing with WWE. Seven years of those being on primetime. He had the luxury that the overwhelming majority of WWE newcomers don't have.
 

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Re-reading his interview, pretty sure he revealed that he wants to be on the main roster. There has been a number of guys in the history of this business that have struggled at picking up the WWE style, including Chris Jericho. Roode may very well be one of those guys, its hard to know for sure. Haven't heard of any incidents about him though and he is still the NXT Champion. He also worked on national television for almost 12 years, prior to signing with WWE. Seven years of those being on primetime. He had the luxury that the overwhelming majority of WWE newcomers don't have.
Exactly, he said his goal is to be on the main roster but he's proud to be NXT Champ, sounds pretty genuine to me.
 
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