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Doug Gottlieb interviewing at Oklahoma State

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I personally think this would be an awful hire. He obviously has no coaching experience, which I don't think is even the worst thing, because he does know the nuances of the game. The bigger question to me, is how good will he be putting together a staff, and how good will he be at recruiting with having little to no ties with any connections on the high school or AAU level. Maybe it ends up working out like Fred Hoiberg did at ISU or maybe it blows up in his face like Clyde Drexler did at Houston. My guess is it would probably be somewhere in between.
 

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Gottlieb has the potential to be good. There is no way to know but I don't think this would be the worst hire. They had a sure thing and blew that so this might be what they're left with.
 

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Sometimes the people will no experience make the best coaches.. It doesn't neccessarily mean you will suck as a coach, it might take longer for one to "thrive" but let's all not forget Bobby Knight, Coach Cal, Coach K started careers with no experience and look at the now. well, in Knights case look at his career.
 

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Sometimes the people will no experience make the best coaches.. It doesn't neccessarily mean you will suck as a coach, it might take longer for one to "thrive" but let's all not forget Bobby Knight, Coach Cal, Coach K started careers with no experience and look at the now. well, in Knights case look at his career.

Coach K was a Grad Assistant with Bobby Knight at Indiana. Calipari was an Assistant at Kansas and Pitt before becoming a head coach at UMass. Bobby Knight was an Assistant at Army before becoming their head coach.

After signing a national letter of intent with Notre Dame, Gottlieb was their starting point guard during the 1995–1996 college basketball season, starting all but the first four games and leading the team with 154 assists as well as steals and minutes played. However, Gottlieb's stint at Notre Dame would be short due to drug problems.

After leaving Notre Dame, he then transferred to Golden West College where he received an Associate of Arts in business. Despite offers from Cincinnati, Alabama and others to transfer and sit out a season on their campus, Gottlieb chose to sit out his transfer year at Golden West College. GWC was coached by his former Tustin Coach Tom McCluskey, and Gottlieb took on the role of redshirt player/coach.

If that's the point of what Oklahoma State has gotten to then God help 'em.
 

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Gottlieb is a chud. I can't imagine that goober being competent at leading young men.
 

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Coach K was a Grad Assistant with Bobby Knight at Indiana. Calipari was an Assistant at Kansas and Pitt before becoming a head coach at UMass. Bobby Knight was an Assistant at Army before becoming their head coach.

After signing a national letter of intent with Notre Dame, Gottlieb was their starting point guard during the 1995–1996 college basketball season, starting all but the first four games and leading the team with 154 assists as well as steals and minutes played. However, Gottlieb's stint at Notre Dame would be short due to drug problems.

After leaving Notre Dame, he then transferred to Golden West College where he received an Associate of Arts in business. Despite offers from Cincinnati, Alabama and others to transfer and sit out a season on their campus, Gottlieb chose to sit out his transfer year at Golden West College. GWC was coached by his former Tustin Coach Tom McCluskey, and Gottlieb took on the role of redshirt player/coach.

If that's the point of what Oklahoma State has gotten to then God help 'em.

That they were... I just wanted to point out that it doesn't matter how much experience you have or don't have.. If you work hard enough at it you can do it. As far as Gottlieb is concerned he did play as you mentioned so it doesn't mean he has to be a coach prior to possibly getting this position.If you are willing to learn and want to learn and have half a brain you could work at it and become a decent coach
 

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Coach K was a Grad Assistant with Bobby Knight at Indiana. Calipari was an Assistant at Kansas and Pitt before becoming a head coach at UMass. Bobby Knight was an Assistant at Army before becoming their head coach.

After signing a national letter of intent with Notre Dame, Gottlieb was their starting point guard during the 1995–1996 college basketball season, starting all but the first four games and leading the team with 154 assists as well as steals and minutes played. However, Gottlieb's stint at Notre Dame would be short due to drug problems.

After leaving Notre Dame, he then transferred to Golden West College where he received an Associate of Arts in business. Despite offers from Cincinnati, Alabama and others to transfer and sit out a season on their campus, Gottlieb chose to sit out his transfer year at Golden West College. GWC was coached by his former Tustin Coach Tom McCluskey, and Gottlieb took on the role of redshirt player/coach.

If that's the point of what Oklahoma State has gotten to then God help 'em.


Gottlieb played at Boone St for Eddie Sutton. That's his connection to Boone St and why he wants to coach there.
 

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They did a courtesy interview on campus yesterday. Unless we promote an assistant none of the legitimate candidates will be interviewed on campus.
 

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Also I met Doug once.

As a sophomore I worked in the student rec center. Gallagher Iba was being renovated so the basketball team had to go there to work out. First day on the job I'm training as a card swiper and up strolls Doug, with no student ID. I say something stupid like "you look like a student" and let him through. He just gives me this wtf look and shakes his head. My manager is laughing his ass off.
 

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So you want to see a fan base meltdown?

Honestly I don't know what to think. The insiders said big money boosters were pissed at Underwood and wanted to throw fuck you money at his replacement. 24 hours ago it was supposed to be either Andy Enfield or Archie Miller. Then we promote an assistant that is supposed to be alright but the most meh choice we could make.

The downside is the AD made a nickel and dime hire and 3 years from now we find someone to take us out of the cellar. The upside is he has a couple of great seasons and the AD lets him go to Oregon State or whoever because he doesn't understand the value of retaining talent.

Best case, the AD gets shitcanned and his replacement doesn't lowball Boynton when he works out and contract extension time comes up.

https://www.google.com/amp/m.newsok.com/article/5542949/amp
 

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So you want to see a fan base meltdown?

Honestly I don't know what to think. The insiders said big money boosters were pissed at Underwood and wanted to throw fuck you money at his replacement. 24 hours ago it was supposed to be either Andy Enfield or Archie Miller. Then we promote an assistant that is supposed to be alright but the most meh choice we could make.

The downside is the AD made a nickel and dime hire and 3 years from now we find someone to take us out of the cellar. The upside is he has a couple of great seasons and the AD lets him go to Oregon State or whoever because he doesn't understand the value of retaining talent.

Best case, the AD gets shitcanned and his replacement doesn't lowball Boynton when he works out and contract extension time comes up.

https://www.google.com/amp/m.newsok.com/article/5542949/amp
AD only doing what Burns and the Fat Pockets tell him to.
 

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AD only doing what Burns and the Fat Pockets tell him to.

The cash was there. People in the know said the money guys were pissed at Underwood and wanted to throw fuck you money at someone to show we were committed to the program. Holder didn't understand Illinois overpaying to snatch our guy reset the market though.

So he went with value to keep our offensive philosophy and recruiting class together.

Hope Boynton kills it and remembers who gave him his shot when other programs come calling but if Holder said money is no object we'd have Archie Miller or Andy Enfield right now. The thought that we were something like $250k/yr from dunk city in Stillwater and we ended up with the assistant no one talked about last year is frustrating to say the least
 

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The cash was there. People in the know said the money guys were pissed at Underwood and wanted to throw fuck you money at someone to show we were committed to the program. Holder didn't understand Illinois overpaying to snatch our guy reset the market though.

So he went with value to keep our offensive philosophy and recruiting class together.

Hope Boynton kills it and remembers who gave him his shot when other programs come calling but if Holder said money is no object we'd have Archie Miller or Andy Enfield right now. The thought that we were something like $250k/yr from dunk city in Stillwater and we ended up with the assistant no one talked about last year is frustrating to say the least
So how does it feel to be a "stepping stone" program?
 

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We were too at one time...but, it wasn't for upward mobility. :(


The more I think about this the more comfortable I am with it.

Boynton was Underwood's x/o guy. The defensive changes we made mid-season were his idea and he is the one that worked with Solomon and made him solid on the glass.

The move was about continuity. We keep the other assistants so the recruiting class will hold up. No one aside from Evans is leaving and he hasn't hired an agent yet so maybe.

Downside is no experience obviously. Dude could be the best offensive mind in the world but everyone from Bill Self to Jamie Dixon has seen stuff he hasn't and that will kill us in game.
 
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