So I was looking for how many NC's OU has been rewarded

4down20 · Apr 13, 2015

nddulac said:
Here is "an available metric" (it is, after all, a metric and it is, by virtue of me posting it here (and in on my own website back in 2011), available) that would say that Alabama was not in the in top two at the end of the regular season in 2011.

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TFS - 2.0 (College Football - NCAA and NAIA) Rank School Record Rating Schedule -------------------------------------------------------------------------- . 1) LSU (13 - 0 - 0) 114.776 91.853 . 2) Oklahoma St (11 - 1 - 0) 112.556 95.140 . 3) Alabama (11 - 1 - 0) 111.110 90.610 . 4) Oklahoma ( 9 - 3 - 0) 107.466 96.008 . 5) Kansas St (10 - 2 - 0) 105.663 93.788 . 6) Stanford (11 - 1 - 0) 104.883 87.133 . 7) Baylor ( 9 - 3 - 0) 104.857 95.024 . 8) Oregon (11 - 2 - 0) 104.455 88.724 . 9) Michigan (10 - 2 - 0) 103.358 88.358 . 10) South Carolina (10 - 2 - 0) 103.350 89.267

The real bottom line (for me as a fan) is that Alabama had a shot against LSU and crapped the bed - at home.

But don't feel too badly. I also think it was some BS when Oklahoma lost their conference championship game to Kansas State and still made it to the BCS championship game.

Added in Edit:
If you don't believe me that not "every available metric" had Alabama in the top two, check out the Massey computer comparisons following the last week of the season in 2011: College Football Ranking Comparison

I don't care about your rankings, and I have nothing to feel bad about - you do. Alabama won in 2011, I'm happy and you are still crying about it 4 years later. Even better, we got to show that Notre Dame was the team that didn't belong the next year.

The Massey composite has Alabama #2 overall. So I guess that pure ESPN marketing only worked on the majority of the computer polls?

BamaTee1 · Apr 13, 2015

Some things will never change. A thread about OU winning 50,000 national championships(check out some of the outlets voting them #1) yet most of the posts have been about Alabama and how undeserving they were in ones they were voted by the damn top poll at the time, the AP. Go figure? lol

trojanfan12 · Apr 14, 2015

BamaTee1 said:
Some things will never change. A thread about OU winning 50,000 national championships(check out some of the outlets voting them #1) yet most of the posts have been about Alabama and how undeserving they were in ones they were voted by the damn top poll at the time, the AP. Go figure? lol

It was a Bama fan that brought Bama into the discussion. You even cry about people talking about Bama when a Bama fan is the one who brought them up.

Pretty obvious that you're the dude who did the "Leave Britney Alone" video. You should do one for Bama too.

4down20 · Apr 15, 2015

trojanfan12 said:
It was a Bama fan that brought Bama into the discussion. You even cry about people talking about Bama when a Bama fan is the one who brought them up.

Pretty obvious that you're the dude who did the "Leave Britney Alone" video. You should do one for Bama too.

Nope, Alabama was brought up first in this post by the permabutthurt Notre Dame fan:

nddulac said:
Man. if only I could think of a school that cherry picks national championships for the purposes of convenience and marketing ....

Mistaken4193 · Apr 15, 2015

trojanfan12 said:
It was a Bama fan that brought Bama into the discussion. You even cry about people talking about Bama when a Bama fan is the one who brought them up.

Pretty obvious that you're the dude who did the "Leave Britney Alone" video. You should do one for Bama too.

LEAVE US ALONE!!!!!!!!! LEAVE US ALONE!!!!!! LEAVE BAMA ALONE DAMMIT!!!!!

Wishbone · Apr 15, 2015

It's hard to argue the fact the Oklahoma is 3-1-1 vs. Alabama.

4down20 · Apr 15, 2015

Wishbone said:
It's hard to argue the fact the Oklahoma is 3-1-1 vs. Alabama.

Also hard to argue the fact that such records don't mean very much because it's not played every year and are played at random times.

2 of Oklahoma's wins came when they were the #1 team and Alabama was in the middle of the worse years in recent history, 2002 and 2003 when Alabama . The Sugar bowl win was a good match up, but before the 2002 season Oklahoma was 0-1-1 against Alabama. The 1 loss came in 1963 in the Orange bowl(17-0) and the tie came in a bowl game in 1970.

The 2002 Alabama team was decent, but not really. It was a huge pickup from the previous years 3-9 record, but then in 2003 we only won 4 games that year, and even lost to freaking Hawaii.

I suppose you can count those 2 if you want, but since regular season games aren't played every year it's more about luck of the draw IMO.

It's 1-1-1 when the 2 teams were deserving of a matchup.

outofyourmind · Apr 15, 2015

Years that Oklahoma really did get screwed out of an NC.
Undefeated Years:
1949
1954
1973

One Loss Years:
1978
1979

Thank you for your attention to this.

trojanfan12 · Apr 15, 2015

4down20 said:
Nope, Alabama was brought up first in this post by the permabutthurt Notre Dame fan:

Really, exactly where in this quote did you see the word Alabama?

nddulac said:
Man. if only I could think of a school that cherry picks national championships for the purposes of convenience and marketing ....

He could have been referring to several programs that have been accused of cherry picking titles. I guess since you assumed that he was talking about Alabama, you are admitting that Alabama claims titles they don't really deserve. Glad you did. It's a big step for you.

4down20 · Apr 15, 2015

trojanfan12 said:
Really, exactly where in this quote did you see the word Alabama?

He could have been referring to several programs that have been accused of cherry picking titles. I guess since you assumed that he was talking about Alabama, you are admitting that Alabama claims titles they don't really deserve. Glad you did. It's a big step for you.

trojanfan12 · Apr 15, 2015

4down20 said:

outofyourmind · Apr 15, 2015

I guess we should go ahead and claim these Undefeated Seasons:
1911
1915
1918
1920

It's not like it stops anybody else from doing it, just because it's the pre-poll era.

Mistaken4193 · Apr 15, 2015

Wishbone said:
It's hard to argue the fact the Oklahoma is 3-1-1 vs. Alabama.

Hey we had yall beat in 02. Tyler Watts said he had a man wide open for the go ahead TD at the end of the game but he pulled a Jameis and the ball slipped out of his hand out of nowhere.

outofyourmind · Apr 15, 2015

Ok, so I'm looking at years and rankings and this pops out at me.
In 1972 Oklahoma finished #2 in the polls, both AP and the Coaches.

We finished with an 8-4 record losing to Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma State, but beat Penn St in the Sugar Bowl.

Can anyone explain WTF kind of deal was that????
I mean we're Oklahoma and shit, but lets get real.

4down20 · Apr 15, 2015

outofyourmind said:
Ok, so I'm looking at years and rankings and this pops out at me.
In 1972 Oklahoma finished #2 in the polls, both AP and the Coaches.

We finished with an 8-4 record losing to Colorado, Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma State, but beat Penn St in the Sugar Bowl.

Can anyone explain WTF kind of deal was that????
I mean we're Oklahoma and shit, but lets get real.

You were 11-1 in 1972.

TexasExes98 · Apr 15, 2015

outofyourmind said:
I guess we should go ahead and claim these Undefeated Seasons:
1911
1915
1918
1920

It's not like it stops anybody else from doing it, just because it's the pre-poll era.

Might as well claim them. Aggy claimed a couple of phantom NC's from 90 years ago right before they left for the SEC....

outofyourmind · Apr 15, 2015

4down20 said:
You were 11-1 in 1972.

We must have had to forfeit a few games after the fact then for something or another.
Coaching Records Game by Game

4down20 · Apr 15, 2015

outofyourmind said:
We must have had to forfeit a few games after the fact then for something or another.
Coaching Records Game by Game

Yeah that's weird. It has the right scores, but then says a loss next to it even though Oklahoma has the most points.

4down20 · Apr 15, 2015

Yep, forfeit.

1972 Oklahoma Sooners football team - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The team posted an 11–1 overall record and a 6–1 conference record, which were later changed to 8–4 overall record"

But apparently the NCAA didn't force it, the Big8 did, so now Oklahoma claims them anyway.

There is actually a discrepancy as to the Sooners' record. The NCAA never officially forced Oklahoma to forfeit games, having only penalized scholarships, TV appearances, bowl appearances, etc.[4] Oklahoma had used players (including Kerry Jackson, the team's first black quarterback) with falsified transcripts and at one point volunteered to forfeit all its games.[5] Eventually, the Big Eight conference asked them to forfeit three victories despite the fact that the NCAA still recognizes them,[6] but Oklahoma now recognizes these as wins and claims the 1972 conference title.[7]

outofyourmind · Apr 15, 2015

4down20 said:
Yeah that's weird. It has the right scores, but then says a loss next to it even though Oklahoma has the most points.

Yeah, Football Data Warehouse does some fucked up shit sometimes. They need to footnote those things.
Me, I just need to pull my head out of my ass.
I knew what record we had in 1972 but just went all blank and shit.

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