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Richard Sherman calls NCAA a scam

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Response to Sherman and others and hopefully help to parents with children attending Universities in near future.

My son will be attending the University of Alabama this fall. Very proud of the fact he earned a Presidential scholarship, (full tuition), but you learn very quickly that represents about 35% of the cost. His housing alone will be over $1100 a month! That's almost my mortgage! Not to mention meal tickets, books and supplies and parking. they also make you put $375, both semesters, onto a type of credit card they can use around campus for gas, food, certain entertainment places. Not to mention if he goes the Fraternity route. Embarrassing to think your son earned full tuition and you're concerned if he can go. He will be able too, however, I don't want him to graduate with tons of debt like National Average. I say this to prepare other parents whose son will be attending Universities soon, so they won't be so shocked! Start early and investigate the, "you know what", out of scholarships and grants. They are everywhere, Most are based on achievement or financial need.

Must go through Fafsa. Fill it out, send it to your Universities, and they will let you know what you are available for that's out there. However, I encourage you to keep looking. They are everywhere, even outside fafsa. All the car dealerships, churches, chamber of commerce's, insurance companies. Almost all the associations, most times the industry giving the scholarship is looking for someone majoring in that particular industry. $250 or $500 a year will add up!

You think many of these football players have tons of debt at graduation? Athletes, like Sherman, don't realize what the normal student's and family's have to go through to attend a University either. The regular student body also won't have 24/7 tutors available doing everything but their work? :rollseyes: Football players are told where to be, when to be there, and have the best of everything (paid for) to get these things done. And no on will ever convince me Professors aren't giving these athletes a ton of slack! I experienced in 30 years ago. I can only imagine.

My son is also in the honors college and they are expected to do a ton of community service, social events, student tutoring, civic activities, etc. If Sherman had a problem at school- easily solved! Sherman take your millions and your comments and we will try to feel sorry for you and all the other abused athletes, doing a sport they love! Wish my bank account was a half as big as Sherman's ego!

I would like to ask Sherman one question, If being a student athlete was so bad would you have traded it to be a regular student with none of those extras? :whistle: Come out of college with $30,000 debt or more? Wonder how you were going to pay a certain bill because family had a bad few months? I cold go on but will save the posters the misery! :suds: Or was not having money one weekend to buy pizza or go to a movie torture?
 
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Not to mention they are held up as icons! Maybe where those egos come from? :noidea: So so tough! :L
 

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How much money do your son bring to the University, compared to the athletes?
 

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How much money do your son bring to the University, compared to the athletes?

Athletes don't bring money to the university.

If they did, Boise St wouldn't have trouble selling out their stadium of 37,000.
 

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Fine, then why does Texas and USC generate more revenue than Boise St while Boise St is having good seasons and Texas and USC are having shitty seasons?

If quality of players was such an issue, that wouldn't be the case.
 

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Fine, then why does Texas and USC generate more revenue than Boise St while Boise St is having good seasons and Texas and USC are having shitty seasons?

If quality of players was such an issue, that wouldn't be the case.

This analogy is cray cray on so many levels.:doh:
 

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This analogy is cray cray on so many levels.:doh:

Why? The point is the schools are what brings in the money. If it was just about the quality of the players, then Boise St would be making more money than Texas right now.

Yet even during bad years for Texas they are still making way more money.
 

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Why? The point is the schools are what brings in the money. If it was just about the quality of the players, then Boise St would be making more money than Texas right now.

Yet even during bad years for Texas they are still making way more money.

Quality of the players? A few sites you should check out....Rivals, Scout and ESPN Recruiting. Historically Texas and USC top 5, keep scrolling through about 4 pages in the rankings and you'll find BSU. We are clicking our heels this year and are listed between 65 and 70.

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In addition, making $ in business = location, location, location. Texas and USC Time Square street level mega stores. In comparison BSU is a barbershop located in a garage in a residential neighborhood in Butte, MT.
 

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Quality of the players? A few sites you should check out....Rivals, Scout and ESPN Recruiting. Historically Texas and USC top 5, keep scrolling through about 4 pages in the rankings and you'll find BSU. We are clicking our heels this year and are listed between 65 and 70.

:noidea:

I was going off results as being a signal of quality players. Texas has been really bad the past few years, their revenue has dropped as a result, as Codaxx pointed out. Since the 2009 season it's been a downhill pattern overall. Meanwhile Boise St has been somewhat successful in recent years. Results is what matters, and Boise St results have been better than the Texas results.

Still despite those changes the Texas revenue is no where near Boise St levels. It's because it's not the individual players that really bring in all that revenue. It's the programs themselves that do.

Only 1.7% of college players ever get paid as a pro.
 

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In addition, making $ in business = location, location, location. Texas and USC Time Square street level mega stores. In comparison BSU is a barbershop located in a garage in a residential neighborhood in Butte, MT.

Alabama is located in Tuscaloosa and Auburn is located in a small town on the Alabama/Georgia line. Also in one of the statistically poorest states in the country.

People are fans of the schools and it's the programs which have long histories that have put in the real work in getting college football where it is today. Not the players. Having good players is nice, but quality is relative.
 

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I was going off results as being a signal of quality players. Texas has been really bad the past few years, their revenue has dropped as a result, as Codaxx pointed out. Since the 2009 season it's been a downhill pattern overall. Meanwhile Boise St has been somewhat successful in recent years. Results is what matters, and Boise St results have been better than the Texas results.

Still despite those changes the Texas revenue is no where near Boise St levels. It's because it's not the individual players that really bring in all that revenue. It's the programs themselves that do.

Only 1.7% of college players ever get paid as a pro.

You mention 2009 as a benchmark for Texas' recent seasons, the year they went to the national championship. They've finished 9-4 and ranked one time since then. That was in 2012 at 18th. That's it in five seasons. They will be back though. It's only a matter of time. They're Texas.

Boise since then has finished 4th, 7th, 6th, 14th, not ranked, and 16th with two Fiesta Bowl victories. And they finished in the top 15 five times in the seven seasons with a Fiesta Bowl win prior to that 2009 benchmark as well. I'd say that's "somewhat successful."

And I like the Butte, Montana reference, Mike. My folks are originally from there. Great place that holds a special place in my heart.
 
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How much money do your son bring to the University, compared to the athletes?

I'll be the first to tell you, at least at Alabama, they are coming to see the jesey. This shit about individual players bringing in all this money, the years they are there, is a load of crap. They came to see these players this year, right? What about the group of players before these and then those and so on and so on. Pretty sure I could dress in a Crimson Tide jersey and they are still coming! Yes you have some individual one's that stand out but most are just coming to see their beloved team. Players and others need to get their egos out of their ass and appreciate the education a little more! :nod:
 

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Why? The point is the schools are what brings in the money. If it was just about the quality of the players, then Boise St would be making more money than Texas right now.

Yet even during bad years for Texas they are still making way more money.


I agree with you and disagree. Not to belittle BSU's schedule, but Texas would also have a much better record playing in the MWC.
 

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I agree with you and disagree. Not to belittle BSU's schedule, but Texas would also have a much better record playing in the MWC.
:lame:

This is a classic example of faulty logic. Really? The faulty assumption is that the team would be the same, it wouldn't.

If Texas was in the MWC, they'd have an MWC budget, an MWC schedule, and MWC recruits. Texas benefits from its long history, status in the state, and it's gigantic endowment and budget.

Such logic is silly beyond words because so much about football is about money. If Texas joined the MWC tomorrow, those top recruits would go elsewhere, the coaches would get hired by other programs, and those big budgets would shrink over time. In 4 or 5 years, they'd look like any other MWC team.

The same happens when a winning program moves up. The first year or two, they struggle, but a quality program wins. Boise State has switched conferences several times, and kept right on winning. The same happened with TCU and Utah, after a few years of adjustment, they went right back to winning.
 

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:lame:

This is a classic example of faulty logic. Really? The faulty assumption is that the team would be the same, it wouldn't.

If Texas was in the MWC, they'd have an MWC budget, an MWC schedule, and MWC recruits. Texas benefits from its long history, status in the state, and it's gigantic endowment and budget.

Such logic is silly beyond words because so much about football is about money. If Texas joined the MWC tomorrow, those top recruits would go elsewhere, the coaches would get hired by other programs, and those big budgets would shrink over time. In 4 or 5 years, they'd look like any other MWC team.

The same happens when a winning program moves up. The first year or two, they struggle, but a quality program wins. Boise State has switched conferences several times, and kept right on winning. The same happened with TCU and Utah, after a few years of adjustment, they went right back to winning.

Do you even understand the basic concept of the debate that is going on here?

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:lame:

This is a classic example of faulty logic. Really? The faulty assumption is that the team would be the same, it wouldn't.

If Texas was in the MWC, they'd have an MWC budget, an MWC schedule, and MWC recruits. Texas benefits from its long history, status in the state, and it's gigantic endowment and budget.

Such logic is silly beyond words because so much about football is about money. If Texas joined the MWC tomorrow, those top recruits would go elsewhere, the coaches would get hired by other programs, and those big budgets would shrink over time. In 4 or 5 years, they'd look like any other MWC team.

The same happens when a winning program moves up. The first year or two, they struggle, but a quality program wins. Boise State has switched conferences several times, and kept right on winning. The same happened with TCU and Utah, after a few years of adjustment, they went right back to winning.

Not sure if you are serious..., but I'll bite.

Texas wouldn't MOVE, they would still be in Austin and still be the biggest draw in the entire state of Texas regardless of conference.

This in and of itself could be the dumbest comment I've ever seen on this site. And that is saying a shit ton.

Such logic is silly beyond words because so much about football is about money. If Texas joined the MWC tomorrow, those top recruits would go elsewhere, the coaches would get hired by other programs, and those big budgets would shrink over time. In 4 or 5 years, they'd look like any other MWC team.

You should kick yourself in the nuts. And then do it again.
 

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Well, you may have a point, the question is silly, since Texas isn't moving to the MWC. And you bet, Texas is, well, Texas. They have better players, more money, and so on. But keep in mind, once Harvard, Army, and the University of Chicago dominated college football.

My point, imperfectly stated, no doubt is that the "if..then" logic is faulty.

How would some program do in some other conference? The answer is no one knows. All we can say is how are they doing now with the teams they actually play? I know this, Texas got its ass kicked by BYU, once the 3rd best MWC team.
 

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Well, you may have a point, the question is silly, since Texas isn't moving to the MWC. And you bet, Texas is, well, Texas. They have better players, more money, and so on. But keep in mind, once Harvard, Army, and the University of Chicago dominated college football.

My point, imperfectly stated, no doubt is that the "if..then" logic is faulty.

How would some program do in some other conference? The answer is no one knows. All we can say is how are they doing now with the teams they actually play? I know this, Texas got its ass kicked by BYU, once the 3rd best MWC team.

And how does all this add up to Boise State being great?
 
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