Meyer is getting screwed

mall3013 · Aug 6, 2018

Wamu said:
I'm just gonna wait until a conclusion is made. No use playing a guessing game about what happens. Or listening to people that don't like Meyer or even the ones defending him. It's gonna be nothing but a back & forth. I'd rather stay out of it.

We have @KingKoolKat75 to do the work for us. I'm with you. I'll wait till the dust settles. In the mean time have at it @KingKoolKat75 .

TheRobotDevil · Aug 6, 2018

Codaxx said:
I don’t get your axe here. Nobody has defended the reporter. The biggest issue is just Meyer lying, which he admitted. Outside of that nothing has been proven. You seem to be really all in on this

My axe here is ignoring the reporters actions. Opens the door for more false reports in the future. Any other reporter that provided false information. Would have at least written a retraction. McMurphy is editing his original story. To suit his agenda as more details are released. Now he says no one from OSU even talked to Courtney Smith in 2015 as per her lawyer.Its a little more about the tabloid style of journalism. And the repercussions that has on the sport as a whole

WizardHawk · Aug 6, 2018

Codaxx said:
I don’t get your axe here. Nobody has defended the reporter. The biggest issue is just Meyer lying, which he admitted. Outside of that nothing has been proven. You seem to be really all in on this

Oh, have you not met Clark before?

Most of us are content with waiting for all of the facts before frying anyone on either side. Others are into tinfoil hat conspiracy theories and creating outlandish claims they pull out of their asses for shits and grins.

Codaxx · Aug 6, 2018

TheRobotDevil said:
My axe here is ignoring the reporters actions. Opens the door for more false reports in the future. Any other reporter that provided false information. Would have at least written a retraction. McMurphy is editing his original story. To suit his agenda as more details are released. Now he says no one from OSU even talked to Courtney Smith in 2015 as per her lawyer.Its a little more about the tabloid style of journalism. And the repercussions that has on the sport as a whole

He has claimed that he based his report on the original report. He changed it after the police department released the incident report after his story. He claims that the newly released report differed from the original. He said he questioned them and they responded it was changed to more accurately reflect the incident. The story is a bit fishy, but plausible. Hard to say for a fact that his report contained false information, if his claims that the police changed the report. Why I have said that the only thing that has been proven is Urban lies. I woukdnt have said proven if Urban didn’t admit it publicly

corn train · Aug 6, 2018

How long until the lawsuit is filed against the university by her lawyer?

Codaxx · Aug 6, 2018

corn train said:
How long until the lawsuit is filed against the university by her lawyer?

Never know. She could have gone to FOX or ESPN to sell her story, instead the story was broke by an unemployed reporter

TheRobotDevil · Aug 6, 2018

Codaxx said:
He has claimed that he based his report on the original report. He changed it after the police department released the incident report after his story. He claims that the newly released report differed from the original. He said he questioned them and they responded it was changed to more accurately reflect the incident. The story is a bit fishy, but plausible. Hard to say for a fact that his report contained false information, if his claims that the police changed the report. Why I have said that the only thing that has been proven is Urban lies. I woukdnt have said proven if Urban didn’t admit it publicly

This is where I see an issue. McMurphy has edited his story multiple times. Regarding several details going back to the beginning. It’s one thing if he prints a retraction. Or even adds an update like you just did. If that’s the case. But he’s been editing and flipping details and his story. Since he first reported it. Including changing what he originally reported during his ESPN interview. This is where I think some people may be mistaken. Social media reporters need to be held to some form of accountability in general

Codaxx · Aug 6, 2018

TheRobotDevil said:
This is where I see an issue. McMurphy has edited his story multiple times. Regarding several details going back to the beginning. It’s one thing if he prints a retraction. Or even adds an update like you just did. If that’s the case. But he’s been editing and flipping details and his story. Since he first reported it. Including changing what he originally reported during his ESPN interview. This is where I think some people may be mistaken. Social media reporters need to be held to some form of accountability in general

He did put that in explaining the edits. I have not seen the authorities deny McMurphies claim that the original incident report has been changed, so right now it’s hard to say McMurphy did anything unseemly. Your desire to hold the press accountable seems to be in direct contrast to your “let the evidence come in before me make judgements” statements

socaljim242 · Aug 6, 2018

TheRobotDevil said:
This is where I see an issue. McMurphy has edited his story multiple times. Regarding several details going back to the beginning. It’s one thing if he prints a retraction. Or even adds an update like you just did. If that’s the case. But he’s been editing and flipping details and his story. Since he first reported it. Including changing what he originally reported during his ESPN interview. This is where I think some people may be mistaken. Social media reporters need to be held to some form of accountability in general

There are police reports about calls , there's Urban saying he reported it , there's court documents. How much can the reporter make up that can't be verified when people start digging? We found out pretty quick Urban flat out lied but that doesn't seem to alter his credibility in your eyes for some reason. So far Urbans on paid leave, Smith has been fired and the AD is in deep shit. Say what you want but the essence of his report seems to be pretty spot on.

TheRobotDevil · Aug 6, 2018

corn train said:
How long until the lawsuit is filed against the university by her lawyer?

As per McMurphys last tweet. I

socaljim242 said:
There are police reports about calls , there's Urban saying he reported it , there's court documents. How much can the reporter make up that can't be verified when people start digging? We found out pretty quick Urban flat out lied ut that doesn't seem to alter his credibility in your eyes for some reason. So far Urbans on paid leave, Smith has been fired and the AD is in deep shit. Say what you want but the essence of his report seems to be pretty spot on.

Theres a pretty big difference between a felony arrest and an investigation.....There’s quite a few pretty drastic edits and changes here

TheRobotDevil · Aug 6, 2018

Codaxx said:
He did put that in explaining the edits. I have not seen the authorities deny McMurphies claim that the original incident report has been changed, so right now it’s hard to say McMurphy did anything unseemly. Your desire to hold the press accountable seems to be in direct contrast to your “let the evidence come in before me make judgements” statements

Maybe he just added that. I haven’t seen an update. Or maybe that was said on Facebook. But I have t seen him print a retraction. If he did I will give him credit for that

TheRobotDevil · Aug 6, 2018

Codaxx said:
He did put that in explaining the edits. I have not seen the authorities deny McMurphies claim that the original incident report has been changed, so right now it’s hard to say McMurphy did anything unseemly. Your desire to hold the press accountable seems to be in direct contrast to your “let the evidence come in before me make judgements” statements

Do you have s link to this statement? I’m just not a fan of the shoot first edit later style of journalism. You see ysedvin social media.

WizardHawk · Aug 6, 2018

The reporter created the frenzy.

OSU's team is digging every which way imaginable and will for sure have access to deeper and more complete information.

There is zero chance any type of false, misleading, incomplete, or otherwise erroneous information from that article will have impact on their final report.

If there is such false or misleading, incomplete information in that article it will for sure come out by that team and McMurphy would of course be held accountable for it. There is no chance he gets away with shitty reporting, whether he's currently an independent reporter or not. He already has a job waiting for him when his contract with ESPN runs out. You'd have to expect it to impact that job. So the idea he can get away with some crazy scheme to invent a false narrative to make a buck and won't face any type of consequence because he is currently independent is simply wrong.

There will be plenty of time for vilifying and holding whoever is found accountable for errors or wrongdoing once ALL of the facts are in. Which thank goodness is expected within the next week or so. Plenty of time for Meyer to resume his duties before any real damage to the team is done, should things go that way.

Codaxx · Aug 6, 2018

TheRobotDevil said:
Do you have s link to this statement? I’m just not a fan of the shoot first edit later style of journalism. You see ysedvin social media.

Just hit McMurphy edits. Story will come up, sorry just in the middle of something (I am supposed to be listening right now)

TheRobotDevil · Aug 6, 2018

WizardHawk said:
The reporter created the frenzy.

OSU's team is digging every which way imaginable and will for sure have access to deeper and more complete information.

There is zero chance any type of false, misleading, incomplete, or otherwise erroneous information from that article will have impact on their final report.

If there is such false or misleading, incomplete information in that article it will for sure come out by that team and McMurphy would of course be held accountable for it. There is no chance he gets away with shitty reporting, whether he's currently an independent reporter or not. He already has a job waiting for him when his contract with ESPN runs out. You'd have to expect it to impact that job. So the idea he can get away with some crazy scheme to invent a false narrative to make a buck and won't face any type of consequence because he is currently independent is simply wrong.

There will be plenty of time for vilifying and holding whoever is found accountable for errors or wrongdoing once ALL of the facts are in. Which thank goodness is expected within the next week or so. Plenty of time for Meyer to resume his duties before any real damage to the team is done, should things go that way.

In sum, he has gone from "arrested on felony counts of domestic violence" to "arrested" to "investigated and arrested" to "investigated" to "allegations" -- all without issuing any correction (let alone a correction in accordance with Industry Standards) until 07/30/2018 -- or six days after Meyer's press conference.

Gonna be busy for a bit. Curious if McMurphy atlas put out a retraction. But I do think Social Media should be held to the same standards. When money enters the picture.

nddulac · Aug 6, 2018

TheRobotDevil said:
Social media reporters need to be held to some form of accountability in general

What an odd thing to post on Sports SportsHoopla!

TheRobotDevil · Aug 6, 2018

nddulac said:
What an odd thing to post on Sports SportsHoopla!

Did we start getting paid to report sports "news"?

WizardHawk · Aug 6, 2018

TheRobotDevil said:
In sum, he has gone from "arrested on felony counts of domestic violence" to "arrested" to "investigated and arrested" to "investigated" to "allegations" -- all without issuing any correction (let alone a correction in accordance with Industry Standards) until 07/30/2018 -- or six days after Meyer's press conference.

Gonna be busy for a bit. Curious if McMurphy atlas put out a retraction. But I do think Social Media should be held to the same standards. When money enters the picture.

If you don't mind, I'll give him the same chance to answer to questions as I currently am giving Meyer, their AD, and the school in general.

That's the point. Allow the process to complete before going all bat shit crazy with radical claims that haven't been fully vetted.

Shanemansj13 · Aug 6, 2018

socaljim242 said:
There are police reports about calls , there's Urban saying he reported it , there's court documents. How much can the reporter make up that can't be verified when people start digging? We found out pretty quick Urban flat out lied but that doesn't seem to alter his credibility in your eyes for some reason. So far Urbans on paid leave, Smith has been fired and the AD is in deep shit. Say what you want but the essence of his report seems to be pretty spot on.

You didnt read the report. It had been changed 3 or 4 tmes.

Actually McMurphy changed his editing more than I thought. It went from “arrested on felony counts of domestic violence” to “arrested” go “investigated and arrested” to “investigated” to “allegations”. And he tried to edit without anyone realizing it. This is what is sketchy and I have an issue with

TheRobotDevil · Aug 6, 2018

WizardHawk said:
If you don't mind, I'll give him the same chance to answer to questions as I currently am giving Meyer, their AD, and the school in general.

That's the point. Allow the process to complete before going all bat shit crazy with radical claims that haven't been fully vetted.

So you agree with what Ive said all along....... Wait for the actual facts before jumping the gun and reporting anything. Once McMurphy or any reporter is being paid. They should be held to the Industry Standards. No different than any reporter. Gonna be busy I want to find the article Codaxx read

Edit: Im going to be reading the article still not sure why he didnt clarify it on the twitter or Facebook he's reporting from tho

Brett McMurphy Clarifies Edits On Original Zach Smith Facebook Story

WizardHawk · Aug 6, 2018

Shanemansj13 said:
You didnt read the report. It had been changed 3 or 4 tmes.

Actually McMurphy changed his editing more than I thought. It went from “arrested on felony counts of domestic violence” to “arrested” go “investigated and arrested” to “investigated” to “allegations”. And he tried to edit without anyone realizing it. This is what is sketchy and I have an issue with

See, even if all of that is true, he's doing it on FB not an actual site that has protocols for making corrections.

I get being skeptical, just like I get those wanting to fry Meyer before all of the facts are in and known. It just doesn't make any sense to ask for others to wait for those facts for one, while making wild claims about the other before his chance to be heard.

If this is something more than just not having a good way to correct mistakes of the record you can bank on OSU's team calling every single bit of it out for him to answer to. He won't get away with anything. If there's something for him to actually get away with in the first place.

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