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Ranking the top NBA markets

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Bay Area really underrated for the tech aspect and future earnings for players. It’s becoming more important to players to be able to set themselves up with investments.
 

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It’s different depending on what a person likes. For instance Paul George being a bass fisherman played right in to OK because of the abundance of lakes. You just never know.
 

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lol

Leave it to Wiggy to make 2 posts, totaling about 1500 words, to not answer the question.
 
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I think cleveland ranks somewhere just below Flint, Michigan
 

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1. Floss Angeles

2. Zoo York

3. Bean Town

4. The Chi

5. Latin Gateway

6. Da Bay
 
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I agree it means less, but it still matters. It is why LeBron is in LA.

SuperStars need to see a winning culture. In most cases they also need to see at least a decent market. Franchises like Indiana, Utah, and Milwaukee have a tough time signing premier FAs even when they do have winning cultures.

You also have to ask yourself when exactly these teams have had the cap space to sign a marquee free agent. Just like a lot of teams, the Pacers have had their one and only legit opportunity to this point in 2016, when Bird wasted that cap space on the likes of Thaddeus Young and Al Jefferson simply because he thought he was getting them at bargain prices.

Utah had their opportunity at major cap space back in 2013, but they were in rebuilding at the time and knowing they probably wouldn't attract anyone of significance because of that, they went ahead and handed extensions to Alec Burks and Derrick Favors, not to mention matching Charlotte's offer for Gordon Hayward the prior summer.

Milwaukee has been salary cap hell for as long as I could remember. They've always spent recklessly on mediocre role players such as John Salmons, Dan Gadzuric, Charlie Bell, Mirza Teletovic, John Henson, etc.

All in all, you can't base perspective on "markets" entirely on what LeBron James does. It's not the politically correct approach to use, because it is merely one man's opinion, in addition to the fact that he'll go to whatever destination boosts his ego that's the size of Russia.

Not widely considered a destination city - Denver, for instance, landed a damn good player in Paul Millsap, who had been a four-time all-star. The icing of the cake for them was the fact that he has more playoff series wins to his record than that joke Carmelo Anthony, and he entered the league four years later than Anthony did.
 

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Ah, knew I missed a market. I'd throw them in that 6-9 range where I can't decide on where to rank them. Definitely in that tier though.

Given how the team is doing now, they arguably are top 5. Is New York right now really a more attractive place?
 

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I think cleveland ranks somewhere just below Flint, Michigan
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historically Boston has been one of the places that NBA free agents have scorned until very very very recently. A few years ago the Lakers tried to go after Greg Monroe and were laughed at and he went to Milwaukee. Jimmy Butler worked to get out of Chicago and ended up going to the wastelands of northern Minnesota.

Market has never mattered less in the NBA than it does today, and matters INSANELY less than it used to 20 years ago where you had to be in a major market to even be on national TV.


Can you pick out Minnesota on a map?
 

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Not one mention of San Antonio, it's a great city, great people, great weather, great food. Has to be top 10.
 

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You also have to ask yourself when exactly these teams have had the cap space to sign a marquee free agent. Just like a lot of teams, the Pacers have had their one and only legit opportunity to this point in 2016, when Bird wasted that cap space on the likes of Thaddeus Young and Al Jefferson simply because he thought he was getting them at bargain prices.

Utah had their opportunity at major cap space back in 2013, but they were in rebuilding at the time and knowing they probably wouldn't attract anyone of significance because of that, they went ahead and handed extensions to Alec Burks and Derrick Favors, not to mention matching Charlotte's offer for Gordon Hayward the prior summer.

Milwaukee has been salary cap hell for as long as I could remember. They've always spent recklessly on mediocre role players such as John Salmons, Dan Gadzuric, Charlie Bell, Mirza Teletovic, John Henson, etc.

All in all, you can't base perspective on "markets" entirely on what LeBron James does. It's not the politically correct approach to use, because it is merely one man's opinion, in addition to the fact that he'll go to whatever destination boosts his ego that's the size of Russia.

Not widely considered a destination city - Denver, for instance, landed a damn good player in Paul Millsap, who had been a four-time all-star. The icing of the cake for them was the fact that he has more playoff series wins to his record than that joke Carmelo Anthony, and he entered the league four years later than Anthony did.

Millsap is not a Marquis free agent.

That is the point.

Your non-destination markets need to overpay players to land them. That is how it works. Who else was offering Millsap a max contract? Minnesota maybe?

When the best of the best are available on the open market, the smaller market teams don't have a chance UNLESS:

1) they have built a phenomenal winning culture over a long period of time (San Antonio)
2) the player has ties in that area (LeBron in Cleveland)

I am not basing that off 1 player like you suggest. It is the entire history of free agency in the NBA.
 

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Millsap is not a Marquis free agent.

That is the point.

Your non-destination markets need to overpay players to land them. That is how it works. Who else was offering Millsap a max contract? Minnesota maybe?

When the best of the best are available on the open market, the smaller market teams don't have a chance UNLESS:

1) they have built a phenomenal winning culture over a long period of time (San Antonio)
2) the player has ties in that area (LeBron in Cleveland)

I am not basing that off 1 player like you suggest. It is the entire history of free agency in the NBA.
ehhh....milsap is not that bad as a free agent.

I mean, just for example- Boston didnt sign anyone for 20 years before just recently with Horford and Hayward.

When was the last time the Wiz signed an FA worth anything?
 

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Bay Area should be at least 8th...

Historically in the NBA they aren't. They are a dynasty now so maybe somehow that's changed how the city is perceived by the current NBA player.
 

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Bay Area really underrated for the tech aspect and future earnings for players. It’s becoming more important to players to be able to set themselves up with investments.

Are you saying they can by more stock because they live closer to the company?
 

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Not one mention of San Antonio, it's a great city, great people, great weather, great food. Has to be top 10.

I like it but I'm not sure it meets the post original criteria.
 

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Bay Area should be at least 8th...

I wouldn't mind visiting there sometime. Zero interest in seeing tech companies but the sourdough bread is supposed to be good. They have a bridge. And my personal favorite the city the original 48 hours was filmed in. And it has streetcars. Even a song about it.
 

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Historically in the NBA they aren't. They are a dynasty now so maybe somehow that's changed how the city is perceived by the current NBA player.

Well sure they were so shitty for so long. They always had the Bay Area amenities but why would a FA want to play in that mess. Those days are done.
 

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I wouldn't mind visiting there sometime. Zero interest in seeing tech companies but the sourdough bread is supposed to be good. They have a bridge. And my personal favorite the city the original 48 hours was filmed in. And it has streetcars. Even a song about it.

Come on over! The Google campus is actually pretty cool. But there's hills and bike trails and beach too. The sourdough is amazing. Other good food too, sushi, Mission style burritos, etc.
 

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I wouldn't mind visiting there sometime. Zero interest in seeing tech companies but the sourdough bread is supposed to be good. They have a bridge. And my personal favorite the city the original 48 hours was filmed in. And it has streetcars. Even a song about it.

And if you want to get a good workout, they also have the world's largest human feces and heroin needle obstacle course.
 
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