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F*cking Oakland. Here they come

SlinkyRedfoot

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Funny how you think including the Indians in that makes you sound smart.

Mar 29: Seattle 2 - Cleveland 1
Mar 30: Seattle 5 - Cleveland 6
Apr 1: Seattle 5 - Cleveland 4
Apr 26: Seattle 5 - Cleveland 4
Apr 27: Seattle 5 - Cleveland 6
Apr 28: Seattle 12 - Cleveland 4
Apr 29: Seattle 10 - Cleveland 4

Seattle 5 Cleveland 2

Gee, looks like we have no shot against the mighty Indians. Why try, right?

Funny how you think quoting me out of context and listing some scores make you sound smart.

I never said the Mariners have no shot against the Indians. I said they have a slim shot of going very far because they’d likely have to face three of the top four teams in the playoffs.

I included the Indians because they’re one of the top teams. Run diff of +82, which ranks 4th in the AL and 5th in MLB. Compare that to the Mariners run diff of -2. They’ve scored the 4th most runs in MLB and their starting pitchers’ ERA ranks 3rd. The bullpen is a wreck, but there’s time to sort that out.

Despite the outcome of those seven games, the Mariners would not be favored in a series against the Indians.
 

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Funny how you think quoting me out of context and listing some scores make you sound smart.

I never said the Mariners have no shot against the Indians. I said they have a slim shot of going very far because they’d likely have to face three of the top four teams in the playoffs.

I included the Indians because they’re one of the top teams. Run diff of +82, which ranks 4th in the AL and 5th in MLB. Compare that to the Mariners run diff of -2. They’ve scored the 4th most runs in MLB and their starting pitchers’ ERA ranks 3rd. The bullpen is a wreck, but there’s time to sort that out.

Despite the outcome of those seven games, the Mariners would not be favored in a series against the Indians.

Anything can happen in the playoffs. Maybe not favored against the tribe but has the best shot to beat them out of the other 3
 

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Anything can happen in the playoffs. Maybe not favored against the tribe but has the best shot to beat them out of the other 3

Have you read the thread? Do you have any idea why these teams were brought up in the first place?
 

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I'm pretty convinced that when Cano comes back that the M's are a better team then the A's. The key is weathering the remaining 23 games he's out. If they are still ahead of the A's when he comes back I like the M's chances.
 

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I included the Indians because they’re one of the top teams. Run diff of +82, which ranks 4th in the AL and 5th in MLB. Compare that to the Mariners run diff of -2. They’ve scored the 4th most runs in MLB and their starting pitchers’ ERA ranks 3rd. The bullpen is a wreck, but there’s time to sort that out.

Wouldn't it be fair to say that for the M's, "there's time to sort that out" in regards to their run diff as well? Will they do it? Who knows but if they do, the main reason the tribe would be favored is the fact that they'd have HFA over the M's...

Despite the outcome of those seven games, the Mariners would not be favored in a series against the Indians.
If the series started today, I'd agree with that regardless of HFA...
 

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How do you know? If the tribe can't figure out their bullpen while the M's begin to have a much better run diff, it's not a given... HFA would be the main reason... Not saying it will happen but I find it comical how you can feel so sure of yourself...
 

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Honestly who cares who would be favored between the Tribe and Mariners? There is a zero percent chance they face in the playoffs. The Tribe will get swept by whoever they end up with in the first round so it's kind of irrelevent.
 

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I included the Indians because they’re one of the top teams. Run diff of +82, which ranks 4th in the AL and 5th in MLB. Compare that to the Mariners run diff of -2.

Despite the outcome of those seven games, the Mariners would not be favored in a series against the Indians.

I am not gonna pretend like the Mariners are a lot better then the Indians or even better at all. You have however quoted the Mariners weak 1st half schedule as the a reason or main reason(I wont assume either way) for their success. I'll go ahead and leave you this stat

Indians record against Detroit, KC, Chicago White Sox: 25-7

Indians record against everyone else: 27-37

Again not saying the Mariners or Indians are better but it deserves a deeper look then looking at run differentials
 

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I am not gonna pretend like the Mariners are a lot better then the Indians or even better at all. You have however quoted the Mariners weak 1st half schedule as the a reason or main reason(I wont assume either way) for their success. I'll go ahead and leave you this stat

Indians record against Detroit, KC, Chicago White Sox: 25-7

Indians record against everyone else: 27-37

Again not saying the Mariners or Indians are better but it deserves a deeper look then looking at run differentials

The Indians bullpen is a major issue. It's been among the worst in the majors, and blew a shit load of games - which is just fucking crazy because they had an historically great bullpen last season and losing Shaw is the only major change. However, they've got one of the top rotations in the game and a potent offense.

There's absolutely no question that the Indians are benefiting from being in the AL Central. In addition to the shit bullpen, their offense has cost them winnable games as well. It's been pretty streaky. They've scored the 4th most runs in MLB, but their rank by month has been all over the place.

April - 25th
May - 1st
June - 18th
July MTD - 1st

Thankfully, they're in the shit pile central and can coast to the playoffs as they try to sort these issues out.
 

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You have however quoted the Mariners weak 1st half schedule as the a reason or main reason(I wont assume either way) for their success.

*A reason.

If I had to pick a "main reason" it'd be that ridonkulous 26-12 record in one-run games.
 

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The 1987 Minnesota Twins had a run differential of -20, a season record of 85-77 and went on to win the World Series.

The Mariners probably won't do that, though.

Man... -20 run diff and they go on to win the series... that’s crazy
 

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*A reason.

If I had to pick a "main reason" it'd be that ridonkulous 26-12 record in one-run games.

Right that's why I didn't want to assume or put words in your mouth. I do respect your opinion though
 

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The Indians bullpen is a major issue. It's been among the worst in the majors, and blew a shit load of games - which is just fucking crazy because they had an historically great bullpen last season and losing Shaw is the only major change.
Well Brad Hand should help
 

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Yikes for Mejia tho, I dunno

They got Climer, too.

I'm not sure how I feel about it. I do trust this front office, though.

Seems to me slugging catchers rarely tend to stay there, and once they're 1st basemen, their bats just don't look as good.

Who knows.

If the Indians win the World Series, it was a brilliant move. If they don't, it was fucking stupid. . .

lolz
 

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Have you read the thread? Do you have any idea why these teams were brought up in the first place?

You brought up the fucking Indians. So yes we were talking about legit WS contenders like the Stros, Yankees and Red Sox and the M's can't compete against them in the playoffs. The Tribe is a toss up and probably should be favored but wouldn't shock me if they defeated the Tribe. So yes, the M's need to make moves to try and compete against the top 3 teams in the AL.
 
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