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Compare Wentz 2017 stats to Daks 2016 and get back to me. This is so stupid. Go on cowboyszone and see what 95% of Cowboy thinks who is better. Go on the internet, buy NFL mags, listen to radio hosts... everyone is saying Wentz is better. Do you have any concern that one dude got tremendously better year 2 and one guy got worse. That doesn’t concern you? Can’t wait til the day we look back on this and laugh. Tell me where Dak is better then Wentz except at running.

Dak doesn’t have one skill better then Wentz. Fucking huh probably would have won MVP but Daks just as good. Dak will NEVER be All Pro... Wentz already has

You said when both teams played well Daks stats are better? Huhh?
How is it stupid? You said Wentz didn't need help but Daks does. These two seasons say you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. The numbers do not back your moronic claims.
 

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How is it stupid? You said Wentz didn't need help but Daks does. These two seasons say you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. The numbers do not back your moronic claims.

All Pro, MVP candidate, NFL magazines, radio hosts all don’t back my claims? Every QB needs help. Never said they don’t but again... Dak look he could be good but not the best player in the NFL like Wentz good. Big difference. He isn’t the center piece of your team... ours is. There numbers say one had a great rookie season and got worse. The other says one was coming in with almost no college experience and had ups and downs and exploded on the scene grabbing an 11-1 record, all pro award and possible MVP... which Dak will never do.
 

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All Pro, MVP candidate, NFL magazines, radio hosts all don’t back my claims? Every QB needs help. Never said they don’t but again... Dak look he could be good but not the best player in the NFL like Wentz good. Big difference. He isn’t the center piece of your team... ours is. There numbers say one had a great rookie season and got worse. The other says one was coming in with almost no college experience and had ups and downs and exploded on the scene grabbing an 11-1 record, all pro award and possible MVP... which Dak will never do.
What were those football magazines and radio host claiming this time last year?
 

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What were those football magazines and radio host claiming this time last year?

I’ll go look at the magazines cause I have draft guides and season previews every year since 2000. But again... who got tremendously better year two and who went backwards. I’ll check my magazines in a little. But answer just one question for me...

If you drafted a QB would you hope they get better after a year of play or get worse?

Dak will never win an MVP cause he doesn’t have the tools or ability. Wentz looks like the time that could pocket a bunch. He almost had one year two in his career and that’s phenomenal
 

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I’ll go look at the magazines cause I have draft guides and season previews every year since 2000. But again... who got tremendously better year two and who went backwards. I’ll check my magazines in a little. But answer just one question for me...

If you drafted a QB would you hope they get better after a year of play or get worse?

Dak will never win an MVP cause he doesn’t have the tools or ability. Wentz looks like the time that could pocket a bunch. He almost had one year two in his career and that’s phenomenal
I'll save you the time, Dak was rated higher. As for who improved more. The whole Philly team not just the QB.
 

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I'll save you the time, Dak was rated higher. As for who improved more. The whole Philly team not just the QB.

My Athlon had Dak 14th and Wentz 18th headed into 2017. Dak went back to 17 and Wentz went up to 3.

The team did improve cause they did a brilliant job in FA but the QB sky rocketed up the charts.

Our GM pulled a fast one on the NFL this year and I’m sure the rules will change because of it. He structured this years FA contract as to where we will not be charged picking up FA and will collect on who we lost. If we can get a 1 for Foles we are looking into going into next years draft with 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 2 thirds, 2 fourths and 2 fifths.
 

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My Athlon had Dak 14th and Wentz 18th headed into 2017. Dak went back to 17 and Wentz went up to 3.

The team did improve cause they did a brilliant job in FA but the QB sky rocketed up the charts.

Our GM pulled a fast one on the NFL this year and I’m sure the rules will change because of it. He structured this years FA contract as to where we will not be charged picking up FA and will collect on who we lost. If we can get a 1 for Foles we are looking into going into next years draft with 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 2 thirds, 2 fourths and 2 fifths.
So if your Athlon bible had Dak higher shouldn't he have outplayed Wentz by your way of thinking? Hell the "Magazine" said Dak was better.

Can you start to see what I and a few others have been trying to stuff into your brain yet?
Again, Wentz may very well be better but we just dont know just yet.
 

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So if your Athlon bible had Dak higher shouldn't he have outplayed Wentz by your way of thinking? Hell the "Magazine" said Dak was better.

Can you start to see what I and a few others have been trying to stuff into your brain yet?
Again, Wentz may very well be better but we just dont know just yet.

Yeah... we do know Wentz is better. Dak just isn’t a MVP type.
Dak did outplay Wentz in 2016... never denied that. It’s just not a good thing when your QB goes backwards year two. Is that the kiss of death for Dak? No... but just seeing how these two play Dak doesn’t have the arm talent Wentz has.
 

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Yeah... we do know Wentz is better. Dak just isn’t a MVP type.
Dak did outplay Wentz in 2016... never denied that. It’s just not a good thing when your QB goes backwards year two. Is that the kiss of death for Dak? No... but just seeing how these two play Dak doesn’t have the arm talent Wentz has.
Only thing we know is you're a fucking moron.
I'm done discussing this with you.
 

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Only thing we know is you're a fucking moron.
I'm done discussing this with you.

Yes... me, the NFL players, newspaper writers, radio guys, football publications we are all fucking morons and a sprinkle of Cowboy fans who can’t see the obvious are the real geniuses.
 

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Yeah... we do know Wentz is better. Dak just isn’t a MVP type.
Dak did outplay Wentz in 2016... never denied that. It’s just not a good thing when your QB goes backwards year two. Is that the kiss of death for Dak? No... but just seeing how these two play Dak doesn’t have the arm talent Wentz has.


the kiss of death is when your less talented QB blows his knee out, lies about the severity, and loses his mobility for the future. That's the kiss of death, something that every single coach and sports writer in the world will tell you.

A healthy QB that is able to stay upright and play every game....that is NOT the kiss of death.

Thems the facts.
 

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This thread: Who gives a shit:noidea:

Are we going to get a thread like this every time any story comes out with either QBs name in it? Does saying the same things over and over make them more true or just more annoying? Are we going to have a weekly or maybe even quarterly review of Wentz vs Dak during the season? Maybe even a throw by throw discussion?

You have two young QBs. One was way better in year 1 and won Offensive ROY and had possibly the best rookie season in history and one was way better in year 2 and was second team All Pro and possibly would have been MVP if he didn't get hurt. Both teams love "their guy" and are planning on building around them for years to come. What will happen in the future I don't know but neither does anyone else. Just leave it at that and let the future play out. These constant threads are just annoying at this point.
 

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This thread: Who gives a shit:noidea:

Are we going to get a thread like this every time any story comes out with either QBs name in it? Does saying the same things over and over make them more true or just more annoying? Are we going to have a weekly or maybe even quarterly review of Wentz vs Dak during the season? Maybe even a throw by throw discussion?

You have two young QBs. One was way better in year 1 and won Offensive ROY and had possibly the best rookie season in history and one was way better in year 2 and was second team All Pro and possibly would have been MVP if he didn't get hurt. Both teams love "their guy" and are planning on building around them for years to come. What will happen in the future I don't know but neither does anyone else. Just leave it at that and let the future play out. These constant threads are just annoying at this point.


What the hell are we supposed to talk about in this place if "we just let everything play out"?
 

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What the hell are we supposed to talk about in this place if "we just let everything play out"?
Your not that dumb are you? Talk about whatever you want. But to bring it up in every thread and say the same things over and over is ridiculous.

Regurgitating this discussion over and over is like doing this

 

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Thinking the guy who may have won MVP last year is better then a QB who struggled and enters the season with question marks is really unobjective. :L


Hahahaha
Like Wentz isn’t entering the season with question marks?

Holy shit you’re an asshole
 

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This thread: Who gives a shit:noidea:

Are we going to get a thread like this every time any story comes out with either QBs name in it? Does saying the same things over and over make them more true or just more annoying? Are we going to have a weekly or maybe even quarterly review of Wentz vs Dak during the season? Maybe even a throw by throw discussion?

You have two young QBs. One was way better in year 1 and won Offensive ROY and had possibly the best rookie season in history and one was way better in year 2 and was second team All Pro and possibly would have been MVP if he didn't get hurt. Both teams love "their guy" and are planning on building around them for years to come. What will happen in the future I don't know but neither does anyone else. Just leave it at that and let the future play out. These constant threads are just annoying at this point.

You are right but it’s fucking obvious. It’s also obvious that Zeke is better then any Eagle RB but do we have to wait for that to play out. Lastly, the Eagles are indeed building around Wentz but Dallas is building around Zeke not Dak.
And I do know what will happen in years to come and so do you. Dak simply doesn’t have the arm talent that Wentz has.
 

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Yeah... we do know Wentz is better. Dak just isn’t a MVP type.
Dak did outplay Wentz in 2016... never denied that. It’s just not a good thing when your QB goes backwards year two. Is that the kiss of death for Dak? No... but just seeing how these two play Dak doesn’t have the arm talent Wentz has.

What you have to ask yourself is why Dak regressed and Wentz became very good.
 
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