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KennyBanyeah

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Can't argue with that kind reasoning. Bulletproofogic right there.
 

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As Mr. Patrick greeted parishioners at Arcadia First Baptist Church on Sunday morning, he got an enthusiastic greeting from Robert Ross, 69, who has lived in Santa Fe all his life and has a nephew who once played football with the gunman. Mr. Ross said he believed the solution to school violence was not gun control, but faith. He blamed the shooting on what he called a cultural decay exemplified by legal abortion, gay marriage and the separation of church and state.

“We wonder why this is happening,” he said. “Satan’s right there. He’s always putting his foot in everything.”

If A causes B and B causes C, then Satan causes C.

It's been 20+ years since Algebra for me, but something in that formula seems off.
 

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New NRA President Oliver North Blames School Shootings on Ritalin, “Culture of Violence”

This is actually good. Let them keep coming up with more and more retarded things to blame. Eventually, they will run out of things and maybe, just maybe, someday we will have to study the problem.

"The problem is shoelaces that are too short for combat boots! That's the real problem!"

There's a finite number of things that can be blamed before we get to the core of the issue. It should only take a hundred or so years at the rate places are getting shot up.

I'm the NRA. Fuck your kids.
 

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New NRA President Oliver North Blames School Shootings on Ritalin, “Culture of Violence”

This is actually good. Let them keep coming up with more and more retarded things to blame. Eventually, they will run out of things and maybe, just maybe, someday we will have to study the problem.

"The problem is shoelaces that are too short for combat boots! That's the real problem!"

There's a finite number of things that can be blamed before we get to the core of the issue. It should only take a hundred or so years at the rate places are getting shot up.

I'm the NRA. Fuck your kids.

Wow. I didn't know that Ollie was the new NRA president.

What better representative than a guy who secretly sold weapons foreign terrorists.
 

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Wow. I didn't know that Ollie was the new NRA president.

What better representative than a guy who secretly sold weapons foreign terrorists.

I believe the words you are looking for are "GOD DAMNED AMERICAN HERO!"
 

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I hate typing on a phone. That is all.
 

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If A causes B and B causes C, then Satan causes C.

It's been 20+ years since Algebra for me, but something in that formula seems off.
Wonder if this fucktard used that logic with Houston and the hurricane...
 

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Bigger crowd for trumps inauguration or naw?

 

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Bare minimum, regulations regarding safety and use training, and storage of firearms are essential. The Santa Fe shooting specifically could have been prevented with actual gun storage laws--and enforcement of those laws--to keep weapons out of the hands of those who don't own them and shouldn't use them.

Safety training and storage laws will hugely reduce accidental discharges resulting in death and injury, keeping loaded guns out of the hands of children who don't understand their power and use, and keep actual adult gun owners from owning guns without first learning barrel and trigger discipline. But hopefully, such training would also promote a culture which respects the destructive power of firearms, and makes people less likely to resort to them as a "problem solving" measure.

Having guns locked up in the home will also create just a little bit of extra time for the potential victim of a domestic violence murder to escape, or for the would-be shooter to reconsider their actions.

If we've decided the 2nd Amendment means no restrictions can be placed on the acquisition of firearms, we have to legislate a capable, respectful citizenry with respect to their use at the very least.
 

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Bare minimum, regulations regarding safety and use training, and storage of firearms are essential. The Santa Fe shooting specifically could have been prevented with actual gun storage laws--and enforcement of those laws--to keep weapons out of the hands of those who don't own them and shouldn't use them.

Safety training and storage laws will hugely reduce accidental discharges resulting in death and injury, keeping loaded guns out of the hands of children who don't understand their power and use, and keep actual adult gun owners from owning guns without first learning barrel and trigger discipline. But hopefully, such training would also promote a culture which respects the destructive power of firearms, and makes people less likely to resort to them as a "problem solving" measure.

Having guns locked up in the home will also create just a little bit of extra time for the potential victim of a domestic violence murder to escape, or for the would-be shooter to reconsider their actions.

If we've decided the 2nd Amendment means no restrictions can be placed on the acquisition of firearms, we have to legislate a capable, respectful citizenry with respect to their use at the very least.
license, register, and insure all your firearms, like we do automobiles...
 
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license, register, and insure all your firearms, like we do automobiles...

If we're going to treat them like cars, demonstrating safe use and proficiency would be included. I think that's the most important thing.
 

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license, register, and insure all your firearms, like we do automobiles...

And don't let children use them. If they aren't mentally mature enough to drive a vehicle, a highly functional and often necessary device, until the age of 16, then don't let them shoot guns, a marginally functional and rarely necessary device, until much later.
 

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Safety training is one thing, but what must be included with that is situational awareness and crisis intervention training. Not just knowing how to safely use and store the gun, but when (and not) to use the gun in a high-stress crisis situation.
 
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In other news entirely, my stalker is back. I have received either my fourth or fifth anonymous pumpkin-themed gift: a summertime kid in a hat drinking a cold beverage metal yard decoration and a small, fake pumpkin. It's been at least a year since the last gift.

I'm going to figure out who it is this time.
 
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Safety training is one thing, but what must be included with that is situational awareness and crisis intervention training. Not just knowing how to safely use and store the gun, but when (and not) to use the gun in a high-stress crisis situation.

Agreed. Though, I could see that as a criterion for concealed carry rather than just owning it.
 

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In other news entirely, my stalker is back. I have received either my fourth or fifth anonymous pumpkin-themed gift: a summertime kid in a hat drinking a cold beverage metal yard decoration and a small, fake pumpkin. It's been at least a year since the last gift.

I'm going to figure out who it is this time.
You have until midnight.
 
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