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Shaq SHOULD have been GOAT if he had the work ethic of MJ

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He would definitely have made top 5. At that point where you rank him depends on a lot on 'ships which of course are a team accomplishment.
I think he might have made the top 5, but believe he would have been between the 5 and 10 - Shaq did have injuries a lot and seldom played all 82 games. Kobe had to carry him and the team some each year - but If Shaq had worked on it - who knows
 

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389 stone. Lol


Them Brits do love their fatass centers that can't shoot fer shit.

LOL. I'm thinking this was a part of the joke, but 389 stones is actually over 5,000 pounds.
 

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the zebs let him get away with a lot of physical play too.

chamberlain looks quite a bit stronger.


If sources are to be believed, Wilt was likely much stronger than Shaq. Wilt was said to have been able to deadlift 625 pounds, bench press 450 pounds, and clean and jerk 375 pounds. Also, I can't remember which old NBA big man it was who told the story, but supposedly Wilt lifted him out of the lane with one hand. Not sure I believe that, but I guess the point was that he was freakishly strong.
 

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Or as good as Hakeem.


No non ball handler has a chance at GOAT. Or Top 5.

Shaq was a giant. That's it. Couldn't shoot, couldn't dribble.


Shaq fans I'm sure won't agree.

Yeah, but if he had the work ethic of MJ, he would be great at all of those things. LOL.
 

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Name a professional sport that is 'pure sport' and not entertainment

1980's NWA Championship rasslin. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
 

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If sources are to be believed, Wilt was likely much stronger than Shaq. Wilt was said to have been able to deadlift 625 pounds, bench press 450 pounds, and clean and jerk 375 pounds. Also, I can't remember which old NBA big man it was who told the story, but supposedly Wilt lifted him out of the lane with one hand. Not sure I believe that, but I guess the point was that he was freakishly strong.

looks pretty buff for a 55 year old. he had some hops to go along with that strength too.

 

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Wilt was also a champion high jumper and he could run the 400 meter dash in 49 seconds. Truly a freak athlete.

when a player causes the league to change the rules, that's dominance.....goal tending.

 

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He’d still be the goat if the NBA called his games by the rule book.

It just would’ve been a boring and completely unwatchable product.

But it proves the nba is sports entertainment, not pure sport.
No he wouldn't - Shaq wasn't the first or last player that missed a few calls on
 

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No he wouldn't - Shaq wasn't the first or last player that missed a few calls on

Yes he would. Because he'd have points guards guarding him by halftime.
 

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Yes he would. Because he'd have points guards guarding him by halftime.
And how many point guards have you seen guarding a 7 foot center in the last 20 years, that could actually defend?

Please enlighten me
 

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And how many point guards have you seen guarding a 7 foot center in the last 20 years, that could actually defend?

Please enlighten me

you just don't it.

Point flies right over your head.
 

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Pretty much everyone has agreed with this over the years. Including Shaq.

But hey, at least you made an unnecessary thread to tell us what we already knew. :thumb:

Skillwise...Shaq is probably the 4 rated big in my opinion...behind Akeem, Wilt, Kareem.

He dominated largely because of his size...he was just so much bigger and more physical than the competition...the league sort created the unspoken, Shaq rules...just beat the hell out of him and hope he gets frustrated...the refs just rolled with it.
 

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you just don't it.

Point flies right over your head.
I get it - and quite frankly - I thought Shaq was a great player, but injuries and health in my opinion restricted him some. Top ten player of all time - YES. Top 5 - No and I think anyone who says that is flat out stupid
 

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Skillwise...Shaq is probably the 4 rated big in my opinion...behind Akeem, Wilt, Kareem.

He dominated largely because of his size...he was just so much bigger and more physical than the competition...the league sort created the unspoken, Shaq rules...just beat the hell out of him and hope he gets frustrated...the refs just rolled with it.

Which resulted in many false outcomes.

Because no one could actually guard him within the rules.

The product would've been horrible to watch, but in a real sport and not sports entertainment Shaq basically catches Red by himself.
 

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Which resulted in many false outcomes.

Because no one could actually guard him within the rules.

The product would've been horrible to watch, but in a real sport and not sports entertainment Shaq basically catches Red by himself.

There were a few players that could deal with Shaq on some level, but when he really "wanted" the ball and fought for position in the paint, the only thing you could do was double him fast, or foul him.

But...imo Shaq left a lot on the table, probably because he never had to develop other parts of his game, but never really developed much of a face the basket mid range game and of course free throws.
 
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