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Oh man are you gonna start suffering migraine headaches when LeBalding One is wearing duh Purple 'n Gold next year. The only question is what # does he take?:scratch: I'm thinking either 8 or 24.:D

NOT gonna happen...

my opinion, and i'm sticking with it...:finger:
 

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Now there is some truth in this. The 3 point shot is much more of a weapon today than it was in the DT era. So today's players are much better at it. If they get hot and are dropping 3's right in guys faces...then yeah, the current guys win.

I don't think they can do that for 4 out of 7 games though.

One hundred percent spot on. I think the Dream Team is too balanced and can win in multiple ways, which is why I think they would win a series. But the younger guys are really dangerous though and if they get hot from 3 it's conceivable that they could win.

Also it's not just the importance of the 3 ball, but the importance of the stretch 4 and 5's shooting the 3 ball. Those guys are shooting with as great of a proficiency now as some of the greatest shooters in the Dream Team era. And those are centers and power forwards. That's a huge dynamic that the Dream Team never had to face. Karl Malone and Barkley would go at each other in the mid post or low post. They never had to guard a star 4 or 5 25 feet out.

Conversely, the bigs of today never faced guys who were as skilled scorers as Barkley or Malone in the mid post or the post. Ewing or Robinson were beasts too.

There's multiple different matchup problems for both teams. The only thing that gives the younger guys a real shot to win in the simplest form is that a 3 is worth more than a 2.
 

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Tough call. Would they play by todays rules or the rules as they were back then. It was a much more physical game then.
 

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I like how you always just assume things break the Dream Team's way. I mean I've even acknowledged by saying that most likely the Dream Team wins a series, but the younger guys could potentially win if things go right. But your assumption that just everything will go the Dream Team's way is ridiculous.

Who's to say the game is simply just going to be slower and more physical? What rule set are they playing by?


I've said the younger guys could certain win a game. I'll just take the team with better D and Jordan + the DT front line all day. Jordan knows how to control a game. So that's who


Jump shots will not consistently beat a team that good. Doesn't mean the young guys couldn't get hot but when you slow the game down and break their rhythmn + have great defense it just doesn't look good for them.
 

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Now there is some truth in this. The 3 point shot is much more of a weapon today than it was in the DT era. So today's players are much better at it. If they get hot and are dropping 3's right in guys faces...then yeah, the current guys win.

I don't think they can do that for 4 out of 7 games though.


This ^^


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You must really hate yourself then.

Good luck finding posts where I focus on insulting you or insult you at all.

Whenever we disagree on anything it's how you start the conversation. Which is odd for an older guy. But to each their own.
 

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I've said the younger guys could certain win a game. I'll just take the team with better D and Jordan + the DT front line all day. Jordan knows how to control a game. So that's who


Jump shots will not consistently beat a team that good. Doesn't mean the young guys couldn't get hot but when you slow the game down and break their rhythmn + have great defense it just doesn't look good for them.

It's not just the jumpshots. The paint would be wide open with Ewing, Robinson, Malone or Barkley all having to guard out on the perimeter. Lebron could get to the hole when he wanted. Same with Durant or Harden. It wouldn't be simply just all 3 point reliant, all though it would be a large part of their game. It would be a lot of high post action.

If the younger guys played the Dream Team's game, they don't stand a chance. The only way would be to pull the bigs out of the paint and open it up from there.
 

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If the younger guys played the Dream Team's game, they don't stand a chance. The only way would be to pull the bigs out of the paint and open it up from there.

Exactly. If the young guys trying to play a post-up/team iso style they would get chewed up by the DTers. So why would they? OTOH, can you imagine any of the DTers EVER doing a high pick and roll to get an open pull-up 3? Outside of desperation moments?

Which is why the rules they would be playing would matter so much.
 

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The paint would be wide open with Ewing, Robinson, Malone or Barkley all having to guard out on the perimeter. Lebron could get to the hole when he wanted. Same with Durant or Harden.

I disagree. The DT has the athletic ability to switch everything on the perimeter and still have their bigs available to protect the rim. So, Lebron et al, wouldn't necessarily be driving to the hole whenever they wanted.

Magic, MJ and Pippen all are athletic enough to switch on the perimeter and Barkley and Malone were athletic enough to be able to defend from the perimeter and get back to the paint.

No doubt the current guys would still get to the hole some, but I doubt it would be enough to make much of a difference in a series.
 

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I disagree. The DT has the athletic ability to switch everything on the perimeter and still have their bigs available to protect the rim. So, Lebron et al, wouldn't necessarily be driving to the hole whenever they wanted.

Magic, MJ and Pippen all are athletic enough to switch on the perimeter and Barkley and Malone were athletic enough to be able to defend from the perimeter and get back to the paint.

No doubt the current guys would still get to the hole some, but I doubt it would be enough to make much of a difference in a series.

Guard to guard ball screens are easy. Anybody can just switch. Magic, Pippen And MJ are all defending wing players.

The challenge comes when they involve the 5 in ball screens. Robinson was definitely athletic enough to switch. Ewing was not.

Certain dream Team lineups would have been perfectly equipped to defend current generation stars. Other combinations (Bird, Mullin, Ewing) would be ripped to shreds.
 

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It's not just the jumpshots. The paint would be wide open with Ewing, Robinson, Malone or Barkley all having to guard out on the perimeter. Lebron could get to the hole when he wanted. Same with Durant or Harden. It wouldn't be simply just all 3 point reliant, all though it would be a large part of their game. It would be a lot of high post action.

If the younger guys played the Dream Team's game, they don't stand a chance. The only way would be to pull the bigs out of the paint and open it up from there.


I think they can manage. Just because they didn't have to doesn't mean they can't. Those guys were beasts. All of them
 

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Lol at the dream team not adapting to the game today.

It's Just :L
 

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I think they can manage. Just because they didn't have to doesn't mean they can't. Those guys were beasts. All of them

And if you were 20 years younger you'd see how good the current players are. Your arguments just boil down to 'man those guys were good, they can adapt to anything' and ignoring the fact that the current players are good too.

I started this thread thinking the new guys had a clear edge, but based on some excellent posts including some of yours I've moderated to thinking they are about even, and the winner depends on the rules used.

But anyone who thinks either team would cream the other is just not serious.
 

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And if you were 20 years younger you'd see how good the current players are. Your arguments just boil down to 'man those guys were good, they can adapt to anything' and ignoring the fact that the current players are good too.

I started this thread thinking the new guys had a clear edge, but based on some excellent posts including some of yours I've moderated to thinking they are about even, and the winner depends on the rules used.

But anyone who thinks either team would cream the other is just not serious.


:L


I've stated plenty. Go back and read. How old were you in 1992 again?
 

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I've said the younger guys could certain win a game. I'll just take the team with better D and Jordan + the DT front line all day. Jordan knows how to control a game. So that's who


Jump shots will not consistently beat a team that good. Doesn't mean the young guys couldn't get hot but when you slow the game down and break their rhythmn + have great defense it just doesn't look good for them.


Here's the cliff notes version:


Higher % shots
Better defense
Controlling tempo
Jordan GOAT
Post players


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Jump shots



And lmao at the dream team can't handle a pick N roll (can't switch on D)
 
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