Haley is out of Pittsburgh

mcnabb7542 · Jan 17, 2018

So the "partners" of the board lean on the Owner to get Tomlin out, and Haley get's canned instead?

Hell nobody in Pittsburgh can stay on task, always looking ahead!

Ojb81 · Jan 17, 2018

mcnabb7542 said:
So the "partners" of the board lean on the Owner to get Tomlin out, and Haley get's canned instead?

Hell nobody in Pittsburgh can stay on task, always looking ahead!

His contract was up, it's not being renewed. I doubt the limited partners had anything to do with this, it was likely coming for some time now

jerseyhawksfan79 · Jan 17, 2018

DHoey said:
I'd take him of Shottenhiemer

Pass on Haley. Seahawks don't need a coach to bump heads with the QB.

handicappers · Jan 17, 2018

Judge Fudge said:
I'll give you that. Pete is fixing our issue with new cordinators and hopefully some players.

I have a list of some if you want

what is this list you speak of? it's not @outofyourmind 's list is it?

thedddd · Jan 17, 2018

RP-29 said:
Serious questions, Steelers fans:

Bell has had a lot of success under Haley. Do you have any concern that a new OC might not be as compatible with Bell as Haley was? Might this sway your preference to move Bell now while stock is high?

Yeah not really concerned there. Bell is great at improvising and also I think the new OC will be internal (IE Munchak (out in Arizona HC position) or Randy Fichtner.

As long as they don't keep a toss sweep on 4th and 1 in the playbook.

Battlelyon · Jan 17, 2018

Now Bell can start his sit out next season contract protest.

jerseyhawksfan79 · Jan 17, 2018

RP-29 said:
Serious questions, Steelers fans:

Bell has had a lot of success under Haley. Do you have any concern that a new OC might not be as compatible with Bell as Haley was? Might this sway your preference to move Bell now while stock is high?

Crazy to say, but Bell might become more scary good with the OC being on the same page with Big Ben.

thedddd · Jan 17, 2018

As for Haley he really wasn't canned his contract was up and wasn't renewed.
Steelers To Hire New Offensive Coordinator

Ben would win in this case no matter what and I think the Haley incident in the bar might have been the icing on the cake.

thedddd · Jan 17, 2018

Battlelyon said:
Now Bell can start his sit out next season contract protest.

As long as he doesn't do another horrible rap song about it.

Judge Fudge · Jan 17, 2018

handicappers said:
what is this list you speak of? it's not @outofyourmind 's list is it?

Bennett( production has deteriorated alot over the past 2 years. Not worth is contract, his offsides or his constant fights)
Lane( Never liked him. Too much cushion on certain routes)
P Richardson( I love the guy. Great Vertical and body control but too much money)
Fat Eddie
Jimmy Graham( Great Pass Catcher, which Bevall underutilized, but piss poor blocker)

FaCe-LeE-uS · Jan 17, 2018

Goooooooooooood......MOTHER F*CKING..................................RIDDANCE!!!!

handicappers · Jan 17, 2018

Judge Fudge said:
Bennett( production has deteriorated alot over the past 2 years. Not worth is contract, his offsides or his constant fights)
Lane( Never liked him. Too much cushion on certain routes)
P Richardson( I love the guy. Great Vertical and body control but too much money)
Fat Eddie
Jimmy Graham( Great Pass Catcher, which Bevall underutilized, but piss poor blocker)

whoa, how much money is tied up with those guys?

handicappers · Jan 17, 2018

thedddd said:
As long as he doesn't do another horrible rap song about it.

Cole Beasley can spit

Clayton · Jan 17, 2018

Pitt scores 40+ points against the best defense in the AFC. Loses game due to turnovers and bad clock management.

Lets OC walk

Ewa PGH Fan · Jan 17, 2018

Ojb81 said:
His contract was up, it's not being renewed. I doubt the limited partners had anything to do with this, it was likely coming for some time now

By definition 'limited partners' have zero say in the operations of a team/business. Lobbying a general/managing partner is a one way express ticket out of the partnership. Limited partners are also called silent partners for a very good reason. This is why I put zero creditability in reports about limited partners lobbying Art.

thedddd · Jan 17, 2018

Clayton said:
Pitt scores 40+ points against the best defense in the AFC. Loses game due to turnovers and bad clock management.

Lets OC walk

Truthfully it wasn't just that game. There have been challenges for a while with Ben and Haley and Ben will win no matter what.

Clayton · Jan 17, 2018

thedddd said:
Truthfully it wasn't just that game. There have been challenges for a while with Ben and Haley and Ben will win no matter what.

Oh, I know. I'm sure talking with Haley about offensive plays is about as much fun as talking with an ex-wife about finances. He isn't the most player friendly guy at all.

I'm just not sure the Steelers are going to get someone better to replace him. If it comes down to Ben or Haley, you obviously pick Haley to walk, though.

Judge Fudge · Jan 17, 2018

handicappers said:
whoa, how much money is tied up with those guys?

Bennett and Graham is alot

Not sure about the other 3

FaCe-LeE-uS · Jan 17, 2018

RP-29 said:
Serious questions, Steelers fans:

Bell has had a lot of success under Haley. Do you have any concern that a new OC might not be as compatible with Bell as Haley was? Might this sway your preference to move Bell now while stock is high?

Bell's success wasn't due to Haley. That had more to do with a top 5 O-line & coaches riding the shit out of his coattails...

Just look at his touches (rushing & receiving) over the last 2 years:
2017: 406 (15 games)
2016: 336 (12 games - 4 game suspension)

He averaged 21.6 carries & 7.5 targets per game over that span. According to NFL Stats & Info, Steelers averaged 65.6 plays per game over those 2 years. That means Bell received 44% of the offense's calls.

So long as the O-line stays intact, and the OC continues the same formula, I have zero concerns.

thedddd · Jan 17, 2018

FaCe-LeE-uS said:
Bell's success wasn't due to Haley. That had more to do with a top 5 O-line & Haley riding the shit out of his coattails...

Just look at his touches (rushing & receiving) over the last 2 years:
2017: 406 (15 games)
2016: 336 (12 games - 4 game suspension)

He averaged 21.6 carries & 7.5 targets per game over that span. According to NFL Stats & Info, Steelers averaged 66.4 plays per game this year. That means Bell was 44% of the offense.

Side note knowing how RB's fall off the face of the earth at age 30 and the amount of touches he gets I wonder if he will even make it that far?

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