The Case For Wisconsin as National Champion

kburjr · Dec 31, 2017

There is no argument for any team this year that can't be refuted.

IMO, 2-loss conference champs shouldn't be in. That left Alabama and Wisconsin for the 4th spot. Wisconsin lost their play-in game. Scale tips to Alabama.

Used 2 B Hu · Dec 31, 2017

broncosmitty said:
So have they cancelled the playoffs yet?

The boycott is gaining steam

bocomo007 · Dec 31, 2017

Deep Creek said:
Blame this place in Buffalo, NY. A Brief History of Buffalo Wings

BTW, one of my son in laws is from Buffalo. I had these up there last summer. Believe me, they may have invented them, but the South perfected them. Ours are much better than theirs!

This place in El Paso puts the Buffalo ones to shame.

I was underwhelmed by Anchor Bar wings too

Deep Creek · Dec 31, 2017

7Samurai13 said:
Last night was supposed to be axe throwing and strippers but ended up just being strippers.

strippers>axe throwing IMO

4down20 · Dec 31, 2017

Smart said:
(1.) No Power Five Team lost fewer games than us
(2.) We put together our record in the best conference in America
(3.) Our loss is better than that of any team in the playoffs

Simply put, none of the playoff teams deserve this shit over us. We didn't lost to Syracuse or Iowa State. We didn't play in a conference with bowl losses. I may be a little intoxicated, but it's clear we deserve the title.

Wisconsin doesn't even deserve to be #5. Ohio St is a much better team.

kburjr · Dec 31, 2017

4down20 said:
Wisconsin doesn't even deserve to be #5. Ohio St is a much better team.

6 points on a neutral field is not much better.

4down20 · Dec 31, 2017

kburjr said:
6 points on a neutral field is not much better.

Ohio St was in control of the game from the start to finish.

At no point did it ever look like Wisconsin was on the same level.

Shows up on the win probability on ESPN too:

Ohio State vs. Wisconsin - Game Summary - December 2, 2017 - ESPN

Ohio St was favored the entire game, the majority of it spent above 75% and a good bit of that above 90%.

BigAppleBadger · Dec 31, 2017

batchaps4me said:
That is a legitimate argument. Francois is a good QB, but their O-line was horrible. But here is the thing, Wisconsin's schedule never allowed for a loss in the CCG and automatic playoff berth. Alabama scheduled and beat what was perceived as a top 5 team to start the season. Wisconsin did neither. TBH, I would have rather seen OSU or USC in the playoffs than a one loss non conference champ.

I sincerely hope that Alabama getting into the playoff had nothing to do with beating FSU. That's even worse than getting in because of the logo on their helmets.

TrustMeIamRight · Dec 31, 2017

Moab said:
WTF... are you really this fucking stupid?

You had football for 128 years. How many do you have?

7Samurai13 · Dec 31, 2017

batchaps4me said:
I agree that the BiG was underrated. The lack of marquee OOC games lies directly on the heads of ADs. Especially coming off of a season like the Wisconsin had, I would think that playing a great matchup on kickoff week would be easy to achieve if the AD wants it.

The heads of some ADs. Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State and Maryland all tried.

kburjr · Dec 31, 2017

4down20 said:
Ohio St was in control of the game from the start to finish.

At no point did it ever look like Wisconsin was on the same level.

Shows up on the win probability on ESPN too:

Ohio State vs. Wisconsin - Game Summary - December 2, 2017 - ESPN

Ohio St was favored the entire game, the majority of it spent above 75% and a good bit of that above 90%.

A game is 60 minutes long. Those win-probability stats are made up bullshit. You aren't the only one who deals in statistics.

BigAppleBadger · Dec 31, 2017

4down20 said:
Wisconsin doesn't even deserve to be #5. Ohio St is a much better team.

This guy is Alabama's version of OD or Great Dayne.

4down20 · Dec 31, 2017

kburjr said:
A game is 60 minutes long. Those win-probability stats are made up bullshit. You aren't the only one who deals in statistics.

Ok, even without the win-probability, Ohio St looked to be in control of the game the entire time.

The Derski · Dec 31, 2017

I tend to agree that ESPN win probably thing is mostly bullshit.

BigAppleBadger · Dec 31, 2017

richig07 said:
LMAO... did Wisconsin even beat a team that will finished ranked? Maybe one?

Your loss is fine, but your wins are shit.

Miami is going to drop from #10 to unranked? Wow.

4down20 · Dec 31, 2017

BigAppleBadger said:
This guy is Alabama's version of OD or Great Dayne.

Well I guess the committee, the AP, the coaches poll and the majority of the country are also Alabama's version of OD or GD then.

cwalke3408 · Dec 31, 2017

Smart said:
Just out of curiousity, what about Wisconsin's performance seems to indicate we would have lost to Auburn, Miami, Virginia Tech, or NC State?

This seems to be my biggest beef. Again, I don't actually think Wisconsin deserves the title. But you seem to think that we should be adding certain amounts of points for good wins and deducting certain points for bad losses or something. And I think the question should be "based on their performance on the field, who do I think has shown to be the better team who would have had the better record had they played the same schedule."

When I look at Clemson, they are being rewarded for a bunch of okay wins. But Wisconsin would have beaten all of those "okay" teams that Clemson beat. Debatably, so would Penn State.

Wisconsin just beat Clemson's best win on their home field. I just hate this newfangled belief that the top-ranked team should be the one that manages to schedule enough okay teams to bolster their resume. The top team should be the best team based on performance on the field, not the one who managed to schedule the best*.

*This is especially true because there is not enough cross-conference play in the regular season to truly gauge the strength of various conferences. I think it's pretty clear that the B1G was underrated, as we're 6-1 versus the spread.

Lot of if statements in your argument. Whisky should pony up and schedule better ooc opponents. But congrats to Wisconsin for finally beating somebody, what a great back and forth game vs a team Clemson dismantled by the 1st qtr.

broncosmitty · Dec 31, 2017

Used 2 B Hu said:
The boycott is gaining steam

Rolltide94 · Dec 31, 2017

Great Dayne said:
Imagine how good this team would've been with Jack Coan at QB instead of Hornytoad who is normally the MVP for the opponent. They would've won every game by a minimum of 20 points easy.

Who?

7Samurai13 · Dec 31, 2017

Deep Creek said:
strippers>axe throwing IMO

Surprisingly I would have spent more per hour throwing axes than I did on strippers.

The Case For Wisconsin as National Champion

Well-Known Member

Baredevil

Just some guy

Well-Known Member

Quit checking me out.

Well-Known Member

Quit checking me out.

On Wisconsin

Well-Known Member

Funniest SH member

Well-Known Member

On Wisconsin

Quit checking me out.

No Fat Chicks

On Wisconsin

Quit checking me out.

Well-Known Member

Banned in Europe

Well-Known Member

Funniest SH member

Similar threads