Butch Jones and Jim Harbaugh Are Both 6-5 in Their Last 11 Games

Chewbaccer · Oct 23, 2017

Used 2 B Hu said:
This is fun!

Will Muschamp 6-5 in his last 11:

Florida L 7-20
Western Carolina W 44-33
Clemson L 56-7
South Florida (bowl) L 39-46 OT
NC State W 35-28
Missouri W 31-13
Kentucky L 13-23
Louisiana Tech W 17-16
Texas A&M L 17-24
Arkansas W 48-22
Tennessee W 15-9

Probably headed towards another 6-6 season though: Got Vandy (pickem), Georgia (L), Florida (L), Wofford (pick), and Clemson (BIG L). The only positive is that everything is at home except for the Bulldogs. Can possibly squeeze out 7 wins

There's 2 slam dunk wins there, and a tossup against Florida. Considering where South Carolina was in 2015, Muschamp has far exceeded my expectations. Really, I think he did a great job just to get SC bowl eligible last season, and in year two, SC will be a 7-8 regular season win team.

Used 2 B Hu · Oct 23, 2017

Chewbaccer said:
There's 2 slam dunk wins there, and a tossup against Florida. Considering where South Carolina was in 2015, Muschamp has far exceeded my expectations. Really, I think he did a great job just to get SC bowl eligible last season, and in year two, SC will be a 7-8 regular season win team.

I wish I was as optimistic, but I've had my heart broken so many times with this club. Also, we keep losing the best player at each position: Deebo Samuel, Rico Dowdle, 3/4ths of the starting O-Line. I can foresee real clunkers against Vandy and Florida, and we've lost to D-1-AA teams fairly recently. Wofford is no pushover.

The Georgia and Clemson games, I'll be happy to keep the margin under 3 scores

RegentDenali · Oct 23, 2017

BoiseMike19 said:
I just don't pay that much attention to Michigan I guess, because I would have never guessed with all the hype that they have literally lost to every team with a pulse and only beaten (save Florida) punching bags. That said, I do give them props for beating AFA. My punching bag of a team hasn't even figured that out in the last 3 years.

Half the Florida team was suspended for the Mich game so they were a punching bag too that game.

Harblah is stinking up the joint lately. There is no beating around the bush on this matter. Especially with the recruit classes hes had. He's grossly underachieving. End of story.

huskers1217 · Oct 23, 2017

@fordman84

What is sumlin?

Inquisitor95 · Oct 23, 2017

huskers1217 said:
@fordman84

What is sumlin?

6-5!

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Jekku · Oct 23, 2017

I think Harbaugh's problem is he can't develop a proper QB and the offense has been wretched to watch. Kinda surprising considering he was a QB and what he did at Stanford with Luck and Toby Gerhart.

RobBase · Oct 23, 2017

Harbaugh has the same record as Hoke through his first 33 games. And this is while wearing a headset.

Rolltide94 · Oct 23, 2017

7Samurai13 said:
Are we sure Florida has a pulse? McElwain is 6-5 in his last 11 games as well.

You beat me to it. I have been underwhelmed by Florida since Meyer left. The only teams they have beaten have been at least as one-dimensional as they were...or just plain bad.

Rolltide94 · Oct 23, 2017

Voltaire26 said:
We are alright ... we should acknowledge that there are really good team in the B1G right now (ohio state, Penn State, Wisconsin and Michigan State), Indiana also has a very nice defense. I worry about Nebraska ... a school with their history can turn it around very quickly.

Michigan is young and we are no slouch ... I think an ass beating (similar to the one in Penn State) can give a team humility. I like the future and I like Harbaugh and it has nothing to do with any other team. We do not have to insult any other team.

Exactly what teams from other conferences have all these "really good" B1G teams beaten?

Ohio St won the title in 2014, beating us and Oregon.

Other than that, what has any of those accomplished.

Y'all beat Florida in 2015, but so did Alabama, FSU and LSU.

Ohio State beat Oklahoma last year, but got their shit pushed in by Clemson.

What is Penn States big ooc win, the 2014 Pin Stripe Bowl, LOL.

Michigan St has one playoff appearence...and we all know how that turned out.

Wisconsin beat an 8-4 LSU team last year, are we giving out trophies for that now.

The SEC has two really good teams right now...I'll wait til this weekend to decide how many the B1G has, but it's definitely not more than 2.

The B1G doesn't have any better teams at the top than any other conference, and your bottom is perhaps the worst.

Face it, Michigan is just bad...like slightly better than Florida bad.

7Samurai13 · Oct 23, 2017

Rolltide94 said:
Exactly what teams from other conferences have all these "really good" B1G teams beaten?

Ohio St won the title in 2014, beating us and Oregon.

Other than that, what has any of those accomplished.

Y'all beat Florida in 2015, but so did Alabama, FSU and LSU.

Ohio State beat Oklahoma last year, but got their shit pushed in by Clemson.

What is Penn States big ooc win, the 2014 Pin Stripe Bowl, LOL.

Michigan St has one playoff appearence...and we all know how that turned out.

Wisconsin beat an 8-4 LSU team last year, are we giving out trophies for that now.

The SEC has two really good teams right now...I'll wait til this weekend to decide how many the B1G has, but it's definitely not more than 2.

The B1G doesn't have any better teams at the top than any other conference, and your bottom is perhaps the worst.

Face it, Michigan is just bad...like slightly better than Florida bad.

Does wins over a top fifteen Georgia (SEC East Champ), top ten Stanford (PAC 12 Champ), and a top ten Baylor (Big12 Champ) count?

Rolltide94 · Oct 23, 2017

7Samurai13 said:
Does wins over a top fifteen Georgia (SEC East Champ), top ten Stanford (PAC 12 Champ), and a top ten Baylor (Big12 Champ) count?

I guess it can if you want to go all the way back to the 2011 season. Although if I was a Sparty fan I can understand why you wouldn't want to go back any further than that...say like one more year.

7Samurai13 · Oct 23, 2017

Rolltide94 said:
I guess it can if you want to go all the way back to the 2011 season. Although if I was a Sparty fan I can understand why you wouldn't want to go back any further than that...say like one more year.

We got shillacked. I am not going to hide from it. The conference as a whole has vastly under preformed and failed to live up to most of it's unwarranted hype. But outside of Alabama, the SEC has looked like trash and so has pretty much every other conference by your standard.

Rolltide94 · Oct 23, 2017

7Samurai13 said:
We got shillacked. I am not going to hide from it. The conference as a whole has vastly under preformed and failed to live up to most of it's unwarranted hype. But outside of Alabama, the SEC has looked like trash and so has pretty much every other conference by your standard.

I don't know, my standard is that each conference usually has 1-3 "really good" teams every year, sometimes less, sometimes more, but rarely 4 and rarely 0. I think all the schools listed have had really good years in the last 3 or 4...with the exception of Indiana, but they didn't all happen at the same time and it ain't this year. When the dust settles on this season, there will be maybe 2 really good B1G teams...right now I think there are still 4 contenders and two pretenders.

rjshull · Oct 23, 2017

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
What's funny is that these are the same people who probably said Michigan was a 7-5 team this year. While I hope we don't fall to that record, if we're an 8-4/9-3 team this year....that means we have to lose 3-4 games.

I'm not worried about our development. I like a lot of what I see still out of this team. The offense just needs a QB. I'm still hoping we see something out of the younger guys before the season is up.

We need more than a QB, the biggest problem on this team is the O Line. We have not had a decent line the entire time Jim has been at Michigan. We have picked up a couple good Pocket Passers but we have to be able to create a pocket for them to play in.

Deep Creek · Oct 23, 2017

Used 2 B Hu said:
But that's because Charlie Strong didn't leave any magic pixie dust behind

Well now...that was frickin' narrow minded of him!

7Samurai13 · Oct 23, 2017

Rolltide94 said:
I don't know, my standard is that each conference usually has 1-3 "really good" teams every year, sometimes less, sometimes more, but rarely 4 and rarely 0. I think all the schools listed have had really good years in the last 3 or 4...with the exception of Indiana, but they didn't all happen at the same time and it ain't this year. When the dust settles on this season, there will be maybe 2 really good B1G teams...right now I think there are still 4 contenders and two pretenders.

Jury is still out on the B1G and unfortunately there won't be a way to tell if they are legit or if it is 2006 until the bowl games. The only thing that is for sure is that the the two biggest OOC games, (OU @OSU and ND @MSU) the B1G shat the bed.

Pariah · Oct 23, 2017

Deep Creek · Oct 23, 2017

Used 2 B Hu said:
Pretty sure more than half the SEC coaches have similar records over that span. Only one dominant team and 13 mediocre ones for the past 5 seasons

Heard this today on XM.
In the current AP Poll:

SEC - 4 in top 25. 2 of the top 3 and then a gap to #19.
B1G - 4 in top 25 3 of the top 6 and then a gap to #16
ACC - 4 in top 25 All of them between 9 and 14
PAC - 4 in top 25 None higher than 12
Big 12 - 5 in top 25 3 of the top 11 then a gap to 22

Rolltide94 · Oct 23, 2017

7Samurai13 said:
Jury is still out on the B1G and unfortunately there won't be a way to tell if they are legit or if it is 2006 until the bowl games. The only thing that is for sure is that the the two biggest OOC games, (OU @OSU and ND @MSU) the B1G shat the bed.

I haven't quite figured out if Notre Dame is good or not, or rather really good, I'm pretty sure they are good. I think you guys are better than you played against ND, but it's hard to say, your offense is really not consistent, and that can leave a good defense out to dry sometimes. Your offense is not Florida bad though, just not always reliable.

7Samurai13 · Oct 23, 2017

Rolltide94 said:
I haven't quite figured out if Notre Dame is good or not, or rather really good, I'm pretty sure they are good. I think you guys are better than you played against ND, but it's hard to say, your offense is really not consistent, and that can leave a good defense out to dry sometimes. Your offense is not Florida bad though, just not always reliable.

I spotted them a pick 6, gave them a short field at the 25, and fumbled the ball on the goal line because the running back wouldn't put two hands on the ball. Everyone says we were blown out but the game was closer than the scoreboard tells.

Our offense is a rusted out 1986 Ford truck. Ugly to look at, but for the most part gets the job done. We have faced one very good defense in the rain and went ultra conservative to eat clock and not turn over the ball. Our defense is good but not great. We are probably a top 18-22 team but we are about to find out what we really are with home for Penn State next week and @Ohio State the week after.

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