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Guess who is back in action!

 

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5-on-3 Handicap TLC Match

Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Kurt Angle
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Braun Strowman, The Miz, Kane, Cesaro, and Sheamus

Cruiserweight Championship - singles match

Kalisto (c) vs Enzo

WWE Raw Women's Championship - singles match

Alexa Bliss (c) vs Mickie James

Non-Title Matches

Finn Balor s AJ Styles - singles match
Asuka vs Emma - singles match
Cedric Alexander/Rich Swann vs Brian Kendrick/Jack Gallagher - tag team match
 

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5-on-3 Handicap TLC Match

Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Kurt Angle
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Braun Strowman, The Miz, Kane, Cesaro, and Sheamus

Cruiserweight Championship - singles match

Kalisto (c) vs Enzo

WWE Raw Women's Championship - singles match

Alexa Bliss (c) vs Mickie James

Non-Title Matches

Finn Balor s AJ Styles - singles match
Asuka vs Emma - singles match
Cedric Alexander/Rich Swann vs Brian Kendrick/Jack Gallagher - tag team match

I'm Excited but nervous/frightened for this match
 

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why would angle do this? Should have flown Jericho in or added Rowan and Harper.
 

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Should have just totally scrapped the Balor/Wyatt match and just put Balor w/Shield.
 

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Should have just totally scrapped the Balor/Wyatt match and just put Balor w/Shield.
Angle's return to the ring is WrestleMania worthy and AJ/Finn feels like too big of a match to waste as a one off with no storyline hype or followup.
 

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Angle's return to the ring is WrestleMania worthy and AJ/Finn feels like too big of a match to waste as a one off with no storyline hype or followup.

We don't know how many of WWE's talents are seriously sick(in case anyone didn't know Wyatt and Reigns have been pulled for huge medical issues(I've heard possible Mumps but that's not confirmed)) so they may not have enough talent to fill the PPV and that's why they brought AJ over. Also you can't just have 3-4 jobber matches on the show the people in attendance paid for without causing a huge circus and outrage so while not the way anyone would have chosen to do it WWE is desperately trying to scramble here.

I feel like WWE is trying to make things right to the people who paid compared to just saying sorry our hands are tied and delivering a shitty show.
 

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We don't know how many of WWE's talents are seriously sick(in case anyone didn't know Wyatt and Reigns have been pulled for huge medical issues(I've heard possible Mumps but that's not confirmed)) so they may not have enough talent to fill the PPV and that's why they brought AJ over. Also you can't just have 3-4 jobber matches on the show the people in attendance paid for without causing a huge circus and outrage so while not the way anyone would have chosen to do it WWE is desperately trying to scramble here.

I feel like WWE is trying to make things right to the people who paid compared to just saying sorry our hands are tied and delivering a shitty show.

I have enough self-awareness to realize the IWC cliche and that I am complaining the WWE made a PPV "too good." But Angle's first match has no storyline and is being booked on the fly at a minor show. AJ/Finn has a huge backstory with both guys wrestling in Japan and AJ taking Finn' s spot in the bullet club the night he left for NXT. That could have been a huge program with Gallows and Anderson's involvement. Plus AJ going over to Raw to lose a match and then go after the SD title isn't good for the brand dynamic.
I get the point about the ticket buyers but there is always a "card subject to change" asterisk. They could have put Balor in place of Roman and the Main Event would have been fine. Replacing Finn/Bray with a mid card match also would have been fine.
The Angle return and Finn/AJ match should have been saved unless they're both part of a bigger storyline.
 

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The changes actually make the show watchable. Prior, we had a nonsensical main event and a supernatural match no one gave a shit about. Now we get a big return in Kurt Angle and AJ/Finn whcih could tear the house down. Who gives a shit if there's no story. TLC didn't have any to begin with.
 

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The changes actually make the show watchable. Prior, we had a nonsensical main event and a supernatural match no one gave a shit about. Now we get a big return in Kurt Angle and AJ/Finn whcih could tear the house down. Who gives a shit if there's no story. TLC didn't have any to begin with.

Yeah, it is better to make changes like this in a minor PPV instead of Survivor Series. Royal Rumble is set up a little more for adjustments with the over-the-top match having a few mysteries and last week changes every year.

I wonder if Survivor Series is going to have a SS elimination match with Raw vs Smackdown or have 2 matches with Raw vs Raw and Smackdown vs Smackdown. If it is inner-brand, I can see them using this to set up Raw's with The Shield + Kurt Angle + another babyface vs Miz's group. I wouldn't want the Miz to be part of it but be matside and wrestle for IC Title later on.
 

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The changes actually make the show watchable. Prior, we had a nonsensical main event and a supernatural match no one gave a shit about. Now we get a big return in Kurt Angle and AJ/Finn whcih could tear the house down. Who gives a shit if there's no story. TLC didn't have any to begin with.

If your point is that the PPV is better on paper than it was 24 hours ago I agree. The problem is that they cashed in two of their best chips to make a minor PPV more watchable when if booked properly they could lead to months worth of compelling TV.
Ziggler and Finn could tear the house down. So could Zayn and Finn. Those both would have been suitable replacements for the Bray match.
I'm not against AJ/Finn if it's the start of a long term storyline but if it's just to a good match at a PPV without a bigger goal it seems like a waste to me.
Angle was my favorite wrestler during the attitude era so using the cachet of his in ring return as last minute replacement for a sick wrestler on 48 hours notice feels like a waste.
Once again if it's the start of a bigger story than I'm intrigued.
 

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If your point is that the PPV is better on paper than it was 24 hours ago I agree. The problem is that they cashed in two of their best chips to make a minor PPV more watchable when if booked properly they could lead to months worth of compelling TV.
Ziggler and Finn could tear the house down. So could Zayn and Finn. Those both would have been suitable replacements for the Bray match.
I'm not against AJ/Finn if it's the start of a long term storyline but if it's just to a good match at a PPV without a bigger goal it seems like a waste to me.
Angle was my favorite wrestler during the attitude era so using the cachet of his in ring return as last minute replacement for a sick wrestler on 48 hours notice feels like a waste.
Once again if it's the start of a bigger story than I'm intrigued.

They gotta keep advertisers and potential buyers happy. Working a patch work storyline on such short notice just isn't feasible. Popping a big match like this on short notice though will create a lot of buzz and intrigue. I'll give you the fact that it does hurt not have much build up to Angle coming back but I don't think it applies to AJ/Finn. They can always write a story around them down the road just because of how talented they are. It's like KO/Sami. Those two fight all the time but each time they find something compelling to do. So AJ/Finn, we'll get a good match and then down the road if they're on the same brand, you'll already have had your appetizer and be excited for the main course.
 

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Yeah, it is better to make changes like this in a minor PPV instead of Survivor Series. Royal Rumble is set up a little more for adjustments with the over-the-top match having a few mysteries and last week changes every year.

I wonder if Survivor Series is going to have a SS elimination match with Raw vs Smackdown or have 2 matches with Raw vs Raw and Smackdown vs Smackdown. If it is inner-brand, I can see them using this to set up Raw's with The Shield + Kurt Angle + another babyface vs Miz's group. I wouldn't want the Miz to be part of it but be matside and wrestle for IC Title later on.

Who knows at this point. Viral meningitis can linger for quite awhile and if the outbreak continues to go on, SS could be impacted. They might not even have enough people to do multiple SS style matches.
 

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Who knows at this point. Viral meningitis can linger for quite awhile and if the outbreak continues to go on, SS could be impacted. They might not even have enough people to do multiple SS style matches.

If it is Raw vs Smackdown. I would hope Miz's crew gets the spot for a SS elimination match. Even though they are heels, Miz is the best "coach" in the WWE.
 

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Good to see Asuka get a big pop.Not quite the match they had at NXT.But it was a good match gotta give them both credit
 

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Just got home. Should I watch from beginning or go live and watch the beginning later?
 
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