THE PAC 12 THREAD v.5

AlaskaGuy · Jul 23, 2017

wazzu31 said:
Kind of how it's been since I was a toddler. UCLA for sure but ASU has always gotten the scraps of the great talent that couldn't qualify for the Cali schools or your Mutts.

But who cares the AC will again decide the north and hopefully we don't shit the bed for what the 5th straight year.

FIFY

RegentDenali · Jul 23, 2017

5-star QB Matt Corral, who decommitted from USC a few weeks ago, has committed to Florida.

AlaskaGuy · Jul 23, 2017

socaljim242 · Jul 23, 2017

RegentDenali said:
5-star QB Matt Corral, who decommitted from USC a few weeks ago, has committed to Florida.

Well looks like he was searching for a school with as little stability at QB as possible and a chance to come in and play right away . Florida has that. two freshman fighting for the starting spot , one a four star the the other a two star.

socaljim242 · Jul 23, 2017

2018 recruit Anaheim Ca 4* DB Julius Irvin picks his top five schools. Most say he;s going to Washington , USC has loaded up at DB this last recruiting class and the next.

Olyduck · Jul 23, 2017

AlaskaGuy said:

TL

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who is this guy anyway and why should we care what he thinks?

AlaskaGuy · Jul 23, 2017

Olyduck said:
TLW
who is this guy anyway and why should we care what he thinks?

He had more to say about Oregon than any other team in the PAC.

Vitamike · Jul 23, 2017

WizardHawk said:
The only thing that jumps off the page on those recruiting rankings is how bad of a return UCLA and ASU have had on their ranking/results ratio.

Why do you think that is?

Just wondering what others think the root cause for UCLA, I have my thoughts, and I'll share them after hearing from you and some others if you all care to respond.

mrwallace2ku · Jul 23, 2017

apparently warshington/warsh state is loaded in the PAC Norte' and we aint…

WizardHawk · Jul 23, 2017

Vitamike said:
Why do you think that is?

Just wondering what others think the root cause for UCLA, I have my thoughts, and I'll share them after hearing from you and some others if you all care to respond.

I don't claim to follow UCLA enough to really know. Certainly injury has played it's part and that can happen to any program. It's the nature of football. But clearly there should be enough depth with the type of recruiting that program gets to weather such storms and still perform. It has to go to the top that it hasn't. Not sure Mora is the answer there.

WizardHawk · Jul 23, 2017

mrwallace2ku said:
apparently warshington/warsh state is loaded in the PAC Norte' and we aint…

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State looks like a program on the rise. Get a few more impressive wins that those recruiting numbers will grow. The future of the duck program will impact you more than any other team.

AlaskaGuy · Jul 23, 2017

mrwallace2ku said:
apparently warshington/warsh state is loaded in the PAC Norte' and we aint…

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Mike Leach does more with less than any other coach in the PAC.

mrwallace2ku · Jul 23, 2017

WizardHawk said:
The future of the duck program will impact you more

i don't like warshington, or the state of, above me in the standings. stand ford i can handle…purple taste sour and orange tastes sweeter.

jus my OP tho…going to the sept 30th game as well, picked that one as my target GOY @ home.

WizardHawk · Jul 23, 2017

mrwallace2ku said:
i don't like warsington, the star of, above me…purple taste sour and orange tastes sweeter.

jus my OP tho…going to the sept 30th game as well, pick that one as my target GOY @ home.

We are happy to be back to relevant enough for people to hate because of where the program is at.

:suds:

Vitamike · Jul 23, 2017

mrwallace2ku said:
apparently warshington/warsh state is loaded in the PAC Norte' and we aint…

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Funny how our actions can affect others deeply without any intent or knowledge on our behalf.

Thanks for this Easter egg gift Wally! :suds:

Pops

would always say Warshington for some reason, never thought about it much b/c that was just Pops.

Kind of ironic that you posted it this week too, the old man's Birthday is in a couple of day here on the 26th. :angel:

AlaskaGuy · Jul 23, 2017

mrwallace2ku said:
i don't like warshington, or the state of, above me in the standings. stand ford i can handle…purple taste sour and orange tastes sweeter.

jus my OP tho…going to the sept 30th game as well, picked that one as my target GOY @ home.

socaljim242 · Jul 23, 2017

Vitamike said:
Why do you think that is?

Just wondering what others think the root cause for UCLA, I have my thoughts, and I'll share them after hearing from you and some others if you all care to respond.

Here's my opinion. I think UCLA gets more talent than the majority of PAC teams except USC and Washington (latly)and Stanford. Oregon has been an outliar by getting specific types of players but thats a whole different argument. The problem with the Bruins is they have the talent spread out . It's one great RB and nothing behind him a WR or a TE and maybe one great O lineman a decent one and then the rest who arent that good. The same for defense. One great Lineman a great Linebacker and maybe a really good saftey and then the rest arent good or just don't play up to their potential. You can have a great offense and so so defense (Colorado)and stay in games (most of the time) you can have a good defense and average offense (Utah) and stay in games but if your talent is so spread out it doesn't make one unit dominant then your Fkd. You're better off with lower rated players who stay together and jell. But UCLA loses a lot to the NFL every year.
And then theres Mora. I think he had his chance and now isn't putting his best effort. He's run off so many assistants I think his staff is full of people coaching for themselves not for Mora. He just comes across as an assshole

AlaskaGuy · Jul 23, 2017

socaljim242 said:
Here's my opinion. I think UCLA gets more talent than the majority of PAC teams except USC and Washington (latly)and Stanford. Oregon has been an outliar by getting specific types of players but thats a whole different argument. The problem with the Bruins is they have the talent spread out . It's one great RB and nothing behind him a WR or a TE and maybe one great O lineman a decent one and then the rest who arent that good. The same for defense. One great Lineman a great Linebacker and maybe a really good saftey and then the rest arent good or just don't play up to their potential. You can have a great offense and so so defense (Colorado)and stay in games (most of the time) you can have a good defense and average offense (Utah) and stay in games but if your talent is so spread out it doesn't make one unit dominant then your Fkd. You're better off with lower rated players who stay together and jell. But UCLA loses a lot to the NFL every year.
And then theres Mora. I think he had his chance and now isn't putting his best effort. He's run off so many assistants I think his staff is full of people coaching for themselves not for Mora. He just comes across as an assshole

When was the last time Washington finished ahead of UCLA in recruiting?

Recruiting rankings over the last 5 seasons (247 rankings):
2017:
1. USC (4th nationally)
2. Stanford (14th nationally)
3. Oregon (19th nationally)
4. UCLA (20th nationally)
5. Washington (22nd nationally)
6. Utah (33rd nationally)
7. Arizona State (35th nationally)
8. Colorado (36th nationally)
9. Arizona (44th nationally)
10. Washington State (46th nationally)
11. Oregon State (51st nationally)
12. California (73rd nationally)

2016:
1. USC (10th nationally)
2. UCLA (13th nationally)
3. Stanford (16th nationally)
4. Arizona State (24th nationally)
5. Oregon (27th nationally)
6. Washington (29th nationally)
7. California (31st nationally)
8. Utah (37th nationally)
9. Arizona (48th nationally)
10. Washington State (56th nationally)
11. Oregon State (58th nationally)
12. Colorado (69th nationally)

2015:
1. USC (2nd nationally)
2. UCLA (12th nationally)
3. Oregon (16th nationally)
4. Arizona State (19th nationally)
5. Stanford (24th nationally)
6. Washington (26th nationally)
7. California (34th nationally)
8. Washington State (42nd nationally)
9. Arizona (43rd nationally)
10. Utah (45th nationally)
11. Oregon State (61st nationally)
12. Colorado (69th nationally)

2014:

1. USC (10th nationally)
2. Stanford (13th nationally)
3. UCLA (18th nationally)
4. Oregon (21st nationally)
5. Arizona State (23rd nationally)
6. Arizona (31st nationally)
7. Washington (38th nationally)
8. Washington State (53rd nationally)
9. California (55th nationally)
10. Oregon State (60th nationally)
11. Utah (66th nationally)
12. Colorado (74th nationally)

2013:
1. UCLA (7th nationally)
2. USC (13th nationally)
3. Washington (18th nationally)
4. Oregon (19th nationally)
5. Arizona State (39th nationally)
6. California (41st nationally)
7. Arizona (44th nationally)
8. Oregon State (45th nationally)
9. Utah (47th nationally)
10. Washington State (50th nationally)
11. Stanford (52nd nationally)
12. Colorado (68th nationally)

socaljim242 · Jul 23, 2017

AlaskaGuy said:
When was the last time Washington finished ahead of UCLA in recruiting?

Recruiting rankings over the last 5 seasons (247 rankings):
2017:
1. USC (4th nationally)
2. Stanford (14th nationally)
3. Oregon (19th nationally)
4. UCLA (20th nationally)
5. Washington (22nd nationally)
6. Utah (33rd nationally)
7. Arizona State (35th nationally)
8. Colorado (36th nationally)
9. Arizona (44th nationally)
10. Washington State (46th nationally)
11. Oregon State (51st nationally)
12. California (73rd nationally)

2016:
1. USC (10th nationally)
2. UCLA (13th nationally)
3. Stanford (16th nationally)
4. Arizona State (24th nationally)
5. Oregon (27th nationally)
6. Washington (29th nationally)
7. California (31st nationally)
8. Utah (37th nationally)
9. Arizona (48th nationally)
10. Washington State (56th nationally)
11. Oregon State (58th nationally)
12. Colorado (69th nationally)

2015:
1. USC (2nd nationally)
2. UCLA (12th nationally)
3. Oregon (16th nationally)
4. Arizona State (19th nationally)
5. Stanford (24th nationally)
6. Washington (26th nationally)
7. California (34th nationally)
8. Washington State (42nd nationally)
9. Arizona (43rd nationally)
10. Utah (45th nationally)
11. Oregon State (61st nationally)
12. Colorado (69th nationally)

2014:

1. USC (10th nationally)
2. Stanford (13th nationally)
3. UCLA (18th nationally)
4. Oregon (21st nationally)
5. Arizona State (23rd nationally)
6. Arizona (31st nationally)
7. Washington (38th nationally)
8. Washington State (53rd nationally)
9. California (55th nationally)
10. Oregon State (60th nationally)
11. Utah (66th nationally)
12. Colorado (74th nationally)

2013:
1. UCLA (7th nationally)
2. USC (13th nationally)
3. Washington (18th nationally)
4. Oregon (19th nationally)
5. Arizona State (39th nationally)
6. California (41st nationally)
7. Arizona (44th nationally)
8. Oregon State (45th nationally)
9. Utah (47th nationally)
10. Washington State (50th nationally)
11. Stanford (52nd nationally)
12. Colorado (68th nationally)

I said Washington has gotten more talent. You go up and down the rosters and tell me who has more talent. Yeah UCLA has gotten maybe some higher ranked players but as a team Washington has more talent. Petersen coaches them up better too.

AlaskaGuy · Jul 23, 2017

socaljim242 said:
I said Washington has gotten more talent. You go up and down the rosters and tell me who has more talent. Yeah UCLA has gotten maybe some higher ranked players but as a team Washington has more talent. Petersen coaches them up better too.

The last sentence is correct. Petersen does coach them up and yes Mora has done less with more than most D1 coaches. If Petersen had the recruiting rankings that UCLA has had I could see Washington blowing the doors out of just about everyone.

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