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Is Leonard Fournette the clear first pick in rookie drafts?
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Yeah I have those concerns too. I also own Allen Robinson (may try to trade him in a deal where I get Mike Evans back) and that Jags offense is just hard!
Mixon is electric, however, I almost feel like he's getting increased hype after his whole saga. He's also on a VERY crowded roster that includes NFL talent at the position (with Gio and then Hill)
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Yeah the age really bothers me (esp with McCoy and Murry, less with guys like Ware and Miller)
What's your thoughts on Booker? I figured is him and Perkins end up being the starters for their team moving future (which I do that they can do) then I'd have the two of them behind Miller (and maybe Ware).
QB I have Andrew Luck - I am concerning drafting one of the rookies at some point.
WR Wise I'm in a pickle because my "top two guys" (being Hopkins and Robinson) had down years and my flex WRs (Michael Thomas and Doug Baldwin) played VERY good.
I have Davonte Parker behind them (and a few lesser guys) so I figured maybe my 2nd can be spent on a WR
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Looking for clarification here Joe..
Cook has fresh free agent signee Lat. Murray to deal with. . who given his shortcomings in Oakland was still an exceptional goal line back, and given most scoring reports list Cook's biggest weakness as being inside running, I'd say him being handed the backfield to himself might be presumptious
Mixon, while i totally agree he'll beat everyone out, relatively easily. .Hill and Gio are still in town, eating up cap space, surely they'll be used to some
McAffrey i agree with you on, for at lest a year before JStew hits the
Fournette though, even though i feel he'll be a bust, has only Yeldon and Ivory to deal with, both of which were exceptionally disappointing. I suppose i could see Yeldon maintaining a passing game role while Fournette gets aclimated to the pro game, but that's about it.
I'd nearly take your lust and flip it, especially considering the dynasty aspect and McAffrey receiving his keys no later than next year
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Hard to say exactly what you have in Booker. Denver looks to be going committee this year and Booker really struggled once he became the starter last year. Some rookies just need a year to adjust, like Devonta Freeman and LeVeon Bell, some never make it.
I view Booker the same way that I would Spencer Ware. He will have his opportunities this season for sure. If he excels, he could be a starter moving into next year. If he doesn't, he could be completely irrelevant from a fantasy standpoint by this time next season. It can happen pretty quick for RBs, in either direction.
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Yeah I feel ya on that, that's kinda why I'm trying to trade S. Ware in the first place. He was a top 20 RB last year, and can be again this year, but he's my 4th RB and if I can get some return for him and move forward it could be helpful.
I have two Bronco fans in the league, however one owns Charles so I'm not sure if he'll value Booker as much. Holding onto to Booker may be the best move, esp. if I can move Ware.
If Miller returns and McCoy and Murray play the way they can I should be good to go
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Well, I'm merely basing it on what we know about the NFL.
Every NFL team needs depth.
I realize it varies from team to team, but statistics show that even in a "committee" situation, there is usually one RB that has the majority of touches.
Just based on that, I think Mixon and Cook get the lion's share of touches.
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Hill looked to be the odd man out in Cincy until Gio tore his ACL. Hill may be serviceable the first few weeks but I see him being phased out unless (1) Mixon can't handle the NFL or (2) Gio's recovery takes longer than expected, or (3) Hill plays with a chip on his shoulder.
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Cook does have Murray to worry about and I admit this one could go either way, but if Cook is earmarked as the lead back, he still should out-touch Murray.
CAROLINA
This one can slide into Fournette's favor real quick. JStew seems to under-perform or get hurt. That said, I still feel this is Stewart's job to lose. Panthers are all about ball-control. You look at their history and they seem to be content running the clock down, regardless of how mediocre the back is.
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At the risk of sounding like a Yeldon groupie, I think Ivory is the touch causality here. If you remember the discussion from a year ago, some owners favored Ivory over Yeldon. Ivory missed 5 games and was arguably more productive. But Yeldon's snap count is huge. If the staff were truly disappointed in Yeldon, I see no reason why they'd put him on the field for over half of the offensive snaps. If they keep the oft-injured 29 year old Ivory, I see Ivory eating into McCaffery's touches rather than Yeldon's since Yeldon seems to be a fixture on 3rd downs.
I'm sure I'm wrong somewhere.
But this is how I see the situations.
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You're wrong about one thing for certain, the rest is conjecture and opinion. Fourbette is in Jax and McAffrey is in Carolina... everything else is debatable
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You're wrong about one thing for certain, the rest is conjecture and opinion. Fourbette is in Jax and McAffrey is in Carolina... everything else is debatable
you didn't hear about the trade??
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Shit, no, damn it! Alright, who wants McAffrey? Won't be worth a damn on the Jags
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Funny thing is, I think they would be better for the other teams...
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Mixon on the Bengals isn't favorable imo. Yeah I agree Hill is be phasing out and Gio has had a few issues, but at least for these next two seasons I think Mixon is in a real crowded backfield
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the term crowded backfield is very over-rated... Will Mixon be given every chance to succeed?? yes!!!! and if he does, then do you really think Hill or Benard are good enough to steal back touches?? they have both proven to be league average at best...
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The term crowded backfield is over-rated? I don't agree with that. Keeping the starter fresh with a backup to spell them is the chic thing with OC now a days, along with having a pass catching specialist at RB. Bengals are not going to just throw Hill off the team, he's cheap labor and they'll find a way to use him this year, unless they can trade him. Once Gio is back he'll be the pass catching RB, heck they just give him a extension, so I got no doubt of that.
Next year things will be a little more straight forward.
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The Bengals' offensive line situation is not necessarily ideal either. Backfield with two veteran RBs who are capable of starting and a potentially awful offensive line: HARD PASS.
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Yes the OL is another item to consider, looks like it's going to suck.
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I disagree. I think by the beginning of the season, Hill is just there for Insurance since Gio will still be out with a slow recovery. Giving Mixon every chance to prove himself. If he does prove himself before Gio can come back, I believe the job is his for good. After Gio comes back I think Hill is pretty much phased out (rarely used)
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Whoa nelly!
Some one pull the reigns back on the Rookie Hype Bandwagon
Zeke is the exception, not the rule, let's not forget that folks.
Every rookie drafted doesn't automatically walk into the lead role ahead of proven vets, even if they were drafted earlier. Ivory/Yeldon, Hill/Gio, Lat Murray, JStew.....these guys aren't about to just roll over and let some rook take their jobs. Some might just lose their jobs outright, but I highly doubt they go down without a 4-6 game stretch where they see more snaps, just based off experience. Especially to start the season, and if any of these rookies struggle in pass protection.
just my 2 cents tho
Some one pull the reigns back on the Rookie Hype Bandwagon
Zeke is the exception, not the rule, let's not forget that folks.
Every rookie drafted doesn't automatically walk into the lead role ahead of proven vets, even if they were drafted earlier. Ivory/Yeldon, Hill/Gio, Lat Murray, JStew.....these guys aren't about to just roll over and let some rook take their jobs. Some might just lose their jobs outright, but I highly doubt they go down without a 4-6 game stretch where they see more snaps, just based off experience. Especially to start the season, and if any of these rookies struggle in pass protection.
just my 2 cents tho
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Well, to be fair, we are only taking about a rookie draft, so, we kind of have to speculate which ones have the best chances of taking starting jobs, sooner the better.
