Second cup of Coffee Talk

sabresfaninthesouth said:

Because we generally can't get our shit together on things like that. I'm massively over-simplifying, but that just presents way too many logistical challenges to do without the federal government being involved.

How are states like Mississippi (poorest state in the nation) supposed to pay for it without federal funding? What if (using my own geography as an example), SC says no but NC says yes - what do you do then with huge number of people who go back and forth between Charlotte and the SC suburbs? What do you do when someone is traveling and ends up in a state with different rules? Is NC on the hook for paying for an SC resident who ends up in a Charlotte ER? Who pays the hospital, if not?

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These problems you just laid out are pretty much dream-land compared to what you've got right now.

sure why not

Bloody Brian Burke said:

These problems you just laid out are pretty much dream-land compared to what you've got right now.

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HA HA! SO TRU-




fuck.

I tend to ignore a lot of Trump stuff because, well, who didn't know who he was a year ago?

But this is weird.

A Time Magazine with Trump on the cover hangs in his golf clubs. It’s fake.

Ukraine is not weak. Just funny.

Their twitter description is just normal too:

Nice pics: #BeautifulUkraine
Our music: #UkieBeats
Bye-bye, Commies: #DecommunizationBenefits

^

I love that gif - The judges would have also accepted the following:

Lol

jstewismybastardson said:

Lol

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So does that make Time Magazine fake news too?

Human Trafficking and those complicit will be prosecuted, including "police and government officials"!! HOLY SHIT THE T-REX IS NOT FUCKING AROUND!!! • r/The_Donald

"...including police and government officials..."

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T-Rex because of his lil' arms and hands?

Comeds said:

T-Rex because of his lil' arms and hands?

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RobBase said:

Not flu shots. Heavy doses of multiple doses too early given to babies too young too soon vs. Single spread out doses.

I have two friends with autistic kids, both got all of their shots early and in bunches.

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Yeah, they got their shots early and in bunches, just like everyone else, and the autism rate, corrected for changes in diagnosis and definitions, hasn't appreciably changed since the advent of vaccines. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't stand to the numerous scientific studies which have failed to elucidate any link between vaccines and autism. Huge studies, several of them. The only study which did produce a link was a survey of 12 kids, which was found to be largely either biased or fabricated; that is, it's entirely unreliable.

Spreading the rumor that vaccines aren't safe, or that vaccines cause autism, is dangerous. It's actively dangerous. You're hurting people by doing that. Killing children. And I'm not being hyperbolic, I'm not exaggerating; that's exactly what you're doing. Kids need their vaccines. Some kids can't get them for some reason, and those kids rely especially on everyone else being vaccinated so they don't run into the infection. It's not a question of personal choice as a consequence; you don't get to decide for other parents whether or not their kid should be at risk for preventable diseases.

And heck, even if they did cause autism (which they don't, so this is a largely pointless thought experiment), I'd rather have an autistic kid who might struggle to socialize but can largely function in society and live an ultimately fulfilling life than a kid who died pointlessly from measles or something, and I'd also rather that be our public health perspective at large.

I'm really not even going to entertain the anti-vaxxers here. You are, for all intents and purposes, fucking stupid if you even remotely believe in a hint of a fraction of truth in any notion that vaccines are at fault for anything other than keeping your children and the children around your children alive. Done. End discussion.

In fact, I would go so far as to term people who adhere to such a foolish doctrine as terrorists given that their actions lead to unnecessary injury and death no different than a car bomb does.

Darkstone42 said:

Yeah, they got their shots early and in bunches, just like everyone else,

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Not my kids. We got them in small, sometimes single shots. I'm not the bragging parent type, and I don't post pics of my kids on the internet, but I mean this is the most humble way when I say both (twins, one girl and one boy) are big, gorgeous, super athletic 90 percentiles alpha kids. Coincidence? Maybe. But my wife and I were very careful not to give our kids their shots too early and often.

Always a touchy subject with kids, and its very hard to see friends and family struggle w austism. I'm very very blessed.

Bloody Brian Burke said:

I'm really not even going to entertain the anti-vaxxers here. You are, for all intents and purposes, fucking stupid if you even remotely believe in a hint of a fraction of truth in any notion that vaccines are at fault for anything other than keeping your children and the children around your children alive. Done. End discussion.

In fact, I would go so far as to term people who adhere to such a foolish doctrine as terrorists given that their actions lead to unnecessary injury and death no different than a car bomb does.

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BIG difference between anti vaccinations and spreading the shots out. The media makes it out like the problem is vaccines itself, not true. Its how they're administered.

Good morning read:

Top comment on Varitas CNN video: "Liberal here. Wow. I thought this "redpill" stuff was all bullshit. Turns out it wasnt. I'm kind of salty you guys were right, but I must confess, you were right and I understand all the "fake news" shit now. Wow." • r/The_Donald

Darkstone42 said:

Yeah, they got their shots early and in bunches, just like everyone else, and the autism rate, corrected for changes in diagnosis and definitions, hasn't appreciably changed since the advent of vaccines. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't stand to the numerous scientific studies which have failed to elucidate any link between vaccines and autism. Huge studies, several of them. The only study which did produce a link was a survey of 12 kids, which was found to be largely either biased or fabricated; that is, it's entirely unreliable.

Spreading the rumor that vaccines aren't safe, or that vaccines cause autism, is dangerous. It's actively dangerous. You're hurting people by doing that. Killing children. And I'm not being hyperbolic, I'm not exaggerating; that's exactly what you're doing. Kids need their vaccines. Some kids can't get them for some reason, and those kids rely especially on everyone else being vaccinated so they don't run into the infection. It's not a question of personal choice as a consequence; you don't get to decide for other parents whether or not their kid should be at risk for preventable diseases.

And heck, even if they did cause autism (which they don't, so this is a largely pointless thought experiment), I'd rather have an autistic kid who might struggle to socialize but can largely function in society and live an ultimately fulfilling life than a kid who died pointlessly from measles or something, and I'd also rather that be our public health perspective at large.

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But anecdotal evidence often feels right. And isn't that more important then the actual truth? If something feels right? Or if it fits a narrative you are pushing?

The ignored one is an anti-vaxxer too?

This is my shocked face :|