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2017 CONCACAF Gold Cup

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Should be an exciting summer of USMNT soccer. WC qualifiers and the Gold Cup. Would be nice to win this summer and then beat the 2019 Golf Cup winner for that spot in the 2021 FIFA Confederations Cup.

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Meh. The Gold Cup is a joke. Either the U.S. or Mexico win it every time (except that one off by Canada).

Personally I the CONCACAF and CONMEBOL should combine. They don't have enough teams to have a torunament (Copa America) so they usually invite 2-3 CONCACAF teams anyway. And overall it would be better for the US to play better competition and improve.
 

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Meh. The Gold Cup is a joke. Either the U.S. or Mexico win it every time (except that one off by Canada).

Personally I the CONCACAF and CONMEBOL should combine. They don't have enough teams to have a torunament (Copa America) so they usually invite 2-3 CONCACAF teams anyway. And overall it would be better for the US to play better competition and improve.

We would never make a world cup if Concacaf and Conmebol combine. We are maybe 7th or 8th at best. In no particular order, here are the teams better than us:

Brazil
Argentina
Columbia
Uruguay
Chile
Mexico

We are on the same level as teams like Costa Rica and Ecuador
 

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We would never make a world cup if Concacaf and Conmebol combine. We are maybe 7th or 8th at best. In no particular order, here are the teams better than us:

Brazil
Argentina
Columbia
Uruguay
Chile
Mexico

We are on the same level as teams like Costa Rica and Ecuador


7th or 8th place would qualify. I"m guessing there would be upwards of 13 WC spots in a 48 team field. Maybe more.
 

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We would never make a world cup if Concacaf and Conmebol combine. We are maybe 7th or 8th at best. In no particular order, here are the teams better than us:

Brazil
Argentina
Columbia
Uruguay
Chile
Mexico

We are on the same level as teams like Costa Rica and Ecuador
So we'd be in:noidea:
 

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IF they combined, the qualifying spots would definitely go up. UEFA has 55 teams and between 12-14 spots in the WC (up to 16 in 2026), CONCACAF & CONMEBOL combined would be about 51 teams so I'd say the spots would go up to around 12-13 or so. So even landing in 7th or 8th would get the US to the World Cup. And I believe over time, the increased competition would make the US better.
 

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Projections after WC expansion have 6 CONCACAF teams and 6.5 CONMEBOL teams. At our best, we're still probably 8th or 9th. At our worst, we'd not qualify.

We have to really fuck up to not make a WC in CONCACAF. If they were combined, 2 or 3 bad games and we're staying home.
 

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This is the watered down gold cup. USA, Mexico and Costa Rica will send their B teams and Cuba will send a team and a half since half of them defect once the plane lands.
 

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This is the watered down gold cup. USA, Mexico and Costa Rica will send their B teams and Cuba will send a team and a half since half of them defect once the plane lands.

not true. teams want to win this so they play the winner of the 2019 Gold Cup, with a chance at playing in the 2020 Confederations Cup.
 

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not true. teams want to win this so they play the winner of the 2019 Gold Cup, with a chance at playing in the 2020 Confederations Cup.

Well, he was partially true. We are sending our B (maybe even C?) team for some reason. I don't get it either. Wouldn't it make sense to send our best players/lineups in order to maximize their chemistry before the WC? It's hard to get a feel for each other when the line ups constantly change. That was one of the central reason they fired Jurgen because he constantly fucked around with shit and now we're still doing the same. :noidea:
 

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Well, he was partially true. We are sending our B (maybe even C?) team for some reason. I don't get it either. Wouldn't it make sense to send our best players/lineups in order to maximize their chemistry before the WC? It's hard to get a feel for each other when the line ups constantly change. That was one of the central reason they fired Jurgen because he constantly fucked around with shit and now we're still doing the same. :noidea:


I'm thinking the players we see in the Gold Cup will likely be the players in contention for PT in next years WC, if we qualify.

That shitstain Beasley and his doofuss teammate Altidore better not be getting minutes this summer.
 

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Great CONCACAF showing from Mexico.

Continent can't even compete with world class B teams.
 

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Great CONCACAF showing from Mexico.

Continent can't even compete with world class B teams.


Mexico didn't have their A team as well. Most of their A team was playing an international friendly against Ghana in preparation for their upcoming WC qualifiers.
 

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Those players should be starters next summer, I hope. I would like to not have those players catch any niggles due to the WC qualifying schedule this summer.

I dunno. I'd rather play them. I think the benefits of your best players playing together outweigh the risks. If its a competitive tournament, we should send most of our best guys all the time. I'm fine with resting a couple here or there but not that many
 

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Mexico didn't have their A team as well. Most of their A team was playing an international friendly against Ghana in preparation for their upcoming WC qualifiers.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbss...-features-chicharito-and-dos-santos-bros/amp/

"Unlike the roster announced for the Gold Cup, the 23-man squad is loaded with the best talent in the country, including Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez, Giovani Dos Santos and Carlos Vela. Clearly, Mexico is throwing all of their effort toward the Confeds and with good reason."

You're flat wrong.
 
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