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richig07

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As is all this discussion about it, but its the reason were here posting

Edit I think the Bears made the right move BTW if you don't have a franchise QB you better do what you can to get one

I agree. There's just people who get too wrapped up into grading drafts immediately.

And yeah... there's arguments to be made for both sides of the Bears move on Thursday night. There's a lot of elements that play into how the fan-base reacted. It was completely unexpected, to start with. The talks circling the team said that drafting a QB was very unlikely. Also, the average fan that doesn't really get why they had to move up a spot, has a hard time swallowing the draft picks they gave up to "only move up one spot".

The reality is, the rumor was the Bears wanted to trade down for quite a while leading up to the draft. They had fielded a lot of calls on teams wanting to move up to #3 to take Trubisky. They knew SF was getting those calls as well, and the only way to assure that they got him was to move up to #2. Now... did they get taken advantage of a bit when they agreed to give up two 3rd's and a 4th? Perhaps. However, those picks will be a distant memory if Trubisky turns into a legit QB.

I'm not in love with Trubisky, but even when I never imagined we'd take him. He was my #1 QB on the board. I also like that we have Glennon on a one year/option deal to bridge the gap, as inexperience is really the only knock against him. If he would have had two seasons like he did in 2016, he may have been the consensus #1 overall. Things are moving fast for him, so I like naming Glennon the starter immediately and not applying the big pressure to the kid immediately. Let him hold a clipboard and soak in the NFL environment.

He's also the polar opposite personality of Cutler, which will be a breath of fresh air. Kid is firey and extremely humble. Was referring to Ryan Pace, the GM as "Mr. Pace" until he was told not to anymore. lol.

We'll see... it was a reach, but the one thing this regime has actually been good at, is talent evaluation in their first two drafts prior to this. I'm not going to jump on them, without seeing the kid play.

The Bears fans who booed the kid when he was shown on the jumbo-tron at the Bulls game the other day, should be ashamed of themselves.
 

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Gets his column read (by giving that instant grading), but it does fuel these types of reactions:

The Bears fans who booed the kid when he was shown on the jumbo-tron at the Bulls game the other day, should be ashamed of themselves.

Only time will tell if it was the right moves for both teams in how they drafted. Overall, I liked the type of players taken by the Lions, with an emphasis on defense this time around. Let's see what the coaches can do with the new talent they have to work with.
 

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I agree. There's just people who get too wrapped up into grading drafts immediately.

And yeah... there's arguments to be made for both sides of the Bears move on Thursday night. There's a lot of elements that play into how the fan-base reacted. It was completely unexpected, to start with. The talks circling the team said that drafting a QB was very unlikely. Also, the average fan that doesn't really get why they had to move up a spot, has a hard time swallowing the draft picks they gave up to "only move up one spot".

The reality is, the rumor was the Bears wanted to trade down for quite a while leading up to the draft. They had fielded a lot of calls on teams wanting to move up to #3 to take Trubisky. They knew SF was getting those calls as well, and the only way to assure that they got him was to move up to #2. Now... did they get taken advantage of a bit when they agreed to give up two 3rd's and a 4th? Perhaps. However, those picks will be a distant memory if Trubisky turns into a legit QB.

I'm not in love with Trubisky, but even when I never imagined we'd take him. He was my #1 QB on the board. I also like that we have Glennon on a one year/option deal to bridge the gap, as inexperience is really the only knock against him. If he would have had two seasons like he did in 2016, he may have been the consensus #1 overall. Things are moving fast for him, so I like naming Glennon the starter immediately and not applying the big pressure to the kid immediately. Let him hold a clipboard and soak in the NFL environment.

He's also the polar opposite personality of Cutler, which will be a breath of fresh air. Kid is firey and extremely humble. Was referring to Ryan Pace, the GM as "Mr. Pace" until he was told not to anymore. lol.

We'll see... it was a reach, but the one thing this regime has actually been good at, is talent evaluation in their first two drafts prior to this. I'm not going to jump on them, without seeing the kid play.

The Bears fans who booed the kid when he was shown on the jumbo-tron at the Bulls game the other day, should be ashamed of themselves.

I'm actually a big fan of Glennon's. I was happy for the Bears (eventhough I hate them) when they pulled the trigger on him. He's ready to be a solid starting QB. Hence, I found the Trubisky move a bit troubling.
 

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I'm actually a big fan of Glennon's. I was happy for the Bears (eventhough I hate them) when they pulled the trigger on him. He's ready to be a solid starting QB. Hence, I found the Trubisky move a bit troubling.

They like Trubisky a lot, but I think they realize that sitting and holding a clipboard for a year or two is in his best interest. They've re-iterated quite a bit that they're still very high on Glennon, and that he is the unquestioned starter.

I think they're going to give Glennon a fair chance to establish himself as the team's QB. I think the regime realizes how important it is to finally figure out the QB position for the Bears, and they're somewhat hedging their bets by bringing in two guys they like.
 

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It sure seems like whenever the media/talking heads/so-call-experts disrespect the Lions it's a sign of a LONG SEASON (Losing Record). Sorry, but I still stand on the Fords only do enough to sell tickets.
 
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It sure seems like whenever the media/talking heads/so-call-experts disrespect the Lions it's a sign of a LONG SEASON (Losing Record). Sorry, but I still stand on the Fords only do enough to sell tickets.

I can understand the idea, but let's face it, a winning club would sell even MORE ticket. Along with all that swag.

 

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I can understand the idea, but let's face it, a winning club would sell even MORE ticket. Along with all that swag.


That is only true if Mgmt feels that the fans are smart enough to not watch a poor product.

Sorry, Thats the nicest way I could say that.
 

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I can understand the idea, but let's face it, a winning club would sell even MORE ticket. Along with all that swag.
A big fan base will always make the playoffs more offend than not because that's where the revenue is at for the NFL.
 

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Keep in mind when drafts are rate, they seldom take into consideration draft position. Everyone is crowing about the Saints draft but in reality they had 6 picks in first 3 rounds or something. Same with the Browns. Pretty easy to have a great draft when you have multiple picks in all the early rounds.
 

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Who gives a fuck what he thinks, it's moronic to grade a draft less than 2 years after it. Nostradumbass can't see into the future and how these kids will develop.

Has about as much relevance as teachers handing out grades the first day of school based on previous years :rolleyes2:
 

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Exactly. Grades based on speculation, instead of a body of work are meaningless. To get caught up over them is quite silly.

I'm not saying don't speculate over your team's draft. However, to go looking around the internet at these type of articles, as if they carry any weight. It's kind of a waste of time.


The grades at this point are based solely on how the grader...
  • Feels about that NFL franchise
  • Feels about that particular prospect

OMG.... XYZ team drafted this guy... I love this guy..... A+++++
 

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The grades at this point are based solely on how the grader...
  • Feels about that NFL franchise
  • Feels about that particular prospect

OMG.... XYZ team drafted this guy... I love this guy..... A+++++

Exactly. Everyone is slobbering all over the Niners right now, but for all we know Thomas and Foster could completely bust.

I mean, I'm never against speculating on what may happen. That's the point of being a fan, and posting on message boards.

However, when I see the term "final grade" being thrown around, days after a draft. It just makes me laugh. The way people talk as if we already know EXACTLY how our teams did in the draft, is ridiculous. Being a Bears fan right now is hilarious, Chicago booed Trubisky at the Bulls game and you'd honestly think the kid already played three seasons and busted.
 

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Exactly. Everyone is slobbering all over the Niners right now, but for all we know Thomas and Foster could completely bust.

I mean, I'm never against speculating on what may happen. That's the point of being a fan, and posting on message boards.

However, when I see the term "final grade" being thrown around, days after a draft. It just makes me laugh. The way people talk as if we already know EXACTLY how our teams did in the draft, is ridiculous. Being a Bears fan right now is hilarious, Chicago booed Trubisky at the Bulls game and you'd honestly think the kid already played three seasons and busted.


Trubisky seemed to be the best QB prospect in the class. Not sure why they are booing him. Anything other than Cutler should be a sight for sore eyes in that town.
 

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Who did the majority of Bear fans want at 3?

And who did you want in the moments after they traded up to 2?

Don't lie and say Trubisky.
 

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Who did the majority of Bear fans want at 3?

And who did you want in the moments after they traded up to 2?

Don't lie and say Trubisky.

Who did the majority of Bear fans want at 3?

Thomas or Adams was the consensus among most fans, I believe. Some thought Lattimore was a possibility. Jonathan Allen was the initial idea a few months prior, but his shoulder issues dropped him pretty far down in the mocks. Keep building on the defense, was the idea. There was a minority group who thought Trubisky or Watson was possible though. Despite the fact all reports said there was not much of a chance.

And who did you want in the moments after they traded up to 2?

Myself, like most, were taken very off guard.

I was watching ESPN's broadcast, who was reporting it was going to be Thomas. They were literally saying it, as if it was a conclusion. I was fine with that.

When Trubisky's name was called, I wasn't upset or happy. Just stunned, and in disbelief. I didn't know how to feel about the pick, because it wasn't even a thought that had occurred to me. There was talks that we'd trade back, and I figured that was the only way possible we'd take a QB. Not at #3... and CERTAINLY not trading up to #2 to do it.
 

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When Trubisky's name was called, I wasn't upset or happy. Just stunned, and in disbelief.

Lions fans know that feeling well.
 

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Exactly. Everyone is slobbering all over the Niners right now, but for all we know Thomas and Foster could completely bust.

I mean, I'm never against speculating on what may happen. That's the point of being a fan, and posting on message boards.

However, when I see the term "final grade" being thrown around, days after a draft. It just makes me laugh. The way people talk as if we already know EXACTLY how our teams did in the draft, is ridiculous. Being a Bears fan right now is hilarious, Chicago booed Trubisky at the Bulls game and you'd honestly think the kid already played three seasons and busted.

Yup, Foster may not ever play a down in the NFL the way he is going.
 
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