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The Promise (2016)

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All I keep hearing about is how this movie is going to be great and it is a must see and "maybe one of the years best films"

Then this:

Christian Bale and Oscar Isaac's 'The Promise' Headed for Epic Box-Office Meltdown: Forecasters

A historical epic starring Christian Bale and Oscar Isaac, helmed by a critically respected director like Terry George (Hotel Rwanda), would seem like a decent bet with mainstream moviegoers. And yet this Friday’s debut of The Promise is shaping up to be a big loser on the balance sheet, at least according to this weekend’s box office preview at The Hollywood Reporter.

In her forecast, THR’s Pamela McClintock writes that things are looking exceedingly bleak for the Bale-Isaac romantic drama, which is set against the backdrop of Armenian genocide. Produced for $100 million by the late Kirk Kerkorian via his Survival Pictures, The Promise is predicted to net only about $4 million domestically, which — considering what that means for its prospects in subsequent weeks — is a doomsday scenario. While producers are downplaying such a situation, claiming that what’s really important is that all theatrical receipts go toward funding nonprofits (including Elton John’s AIDS foundation), there’s no way to truly sugarcoat its expected box-office crash and burn.

Eric Esrailian, now in charge at Survival, told THR where he places the blame: “It became clear that the government of Turkey was going to have an influence on this movie. One of the most insidious realities of our existence in the United States is that foreign governments can control art. I would say at the highest levels from different studios, we were just basically told that no matter how good the film would be, it was never going be released by certain companies. I think that that’s truly shameful, but it’s just a reality that we had to deal with.”

What’s left unsaid by Esrailian, however, is the more basic reality that, as large-scale film budgets soar, so too do the financial risks. Deadline recently reported that the Scarlett Johansson-led Ghost in the Shell remake stands to lose around $60 million (after costing close to $250 million to make/promote). And both Ghost in the Shell and The Promise come on the heels of a 2016 in which numerous tentpole spectaculars took a huge financial bath, including Alice Through the Looking Glass (estimated $70 million loss), Allied (somewhere in the $75M-$90M range), The BFG (close to $100 million), and Ben-Hur (as much as $120 million).

That studio filmmaking is a dicey financial proposition is nothing new; movie moguls have been producing epic flops for decades. But with costs only on the rise, films like The Promise may soon become gambles that make even the most spendthrift of financiers think twice.

Christian Bale and Oscar Isaac's 'The Promise' Headed for Epic Box-Office Meltdown: Forecasters

 

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Hence why I don't listen to critics.. If they LOVE a movie it sucks and when they HATE a movie, it's GREAT!
 

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It's gonna bomb because the movie looks shitty and apparently is shitty
 

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Just because the critics love it don't mean it will succeed in the box office. Hyped shitty movies do great in the box office (Batman vs Superman, Marvel flicks, The Star Wars EPs 1-3, etc.). This movie could be very good, but there are so many movies these days that come out, it's really hard to keep up with which ones to actually see. I saw the previews for this and thought it looks good, but it just hasn't been hyped enough to get the general public attention.

I bet if you asked 10 Americans what the Armenian Genocide was, 9 would have no clue what you are talking about even though the deaths resulting from it are at the scale of the holocaust. That's not good news for this movie's success in the box office.
 

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Just because the critics love it don't mean it will succeed in the box office. Hyped shitty movies do great in the box office (Batman vs Superman, Marvel flicks, The Star Wars EPs 1-3, etc.). This movie could be very good, but there are so many movies these days that come out, it's really hard to keep up with which ones to actually see. I saw the previews for this and thought it looks good, but it just hasn't been hyped enough to get the general public attention.

I bet if you asked 10 Americans what the Armenian Genocide was, 9 would have no clue what you are talking about even though the deaths resulting from it are at the scale of the holocaust. That's not good news for this movie's success in the box office.

That's what I am saying... Usually when critics love it, the movie sucks
 

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Movie about the Armenian genocide? Sorry, I'm not a big fan of fiction.
 

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And there is so much content now that you have to wade through.

The only critic I can trust these days is Face.
 

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If only it had Adam Sandler in it.
 

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Just because the critics love it don't mean it will succeed in the box office. Hyped shitty movies do great in the box office (Batman vs Superman, Marvel flicks, The Star Wars EPs 1-3, etc.). This movie could be very good, but there are so many movies these days that come out, it's really hard to keep up with which ones to actually see. I saw the previews for this and thought it looks good, but it just hasn't been hyped enough to get the general public attention.

I bet if you asked 10 Americans what the Armenian Genocide was, 9 would have no clue what you are talking about even though the deaths resulting from it are at the scale of the holocaust. That's not good news for this movie's success in the box office.

A genocide the average American has never heard of seems like a tough sell under the best of circumstances.
Love and mass murder..yum.
 

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I had this in my must see category. Kim kardashian was hyping the movie so I was like "oh hell yeah". She walked the red carpet for it's preview and I saw nothing but fabulous written all over it.

Then she left before the movie started and so I gave it a thumbs down. Won't watch. Thanks kim for saving me from myself.
 

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I had this in my must see category. Kim kardashian was hyping the movie so I was like "oh hell yeah". She walked the red carpet for it's preview and I saw nothing but fabulous written all over it.

Then she left before the movie started and so I gave it a thumbs down. Won't watch. Thanks kim for saving me from myself.
Lol

If this is true (the fact that the Cardassian was employed to pimp the flick, not your reaction to it), than I think your reaction story may actually have merit. If the producers thought having her walk the carpet would be positive, they clearly have very questionable decision making skills. No way they could make a good, serious flick.
 

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Lol

If this is true (the fact that the Cardassian was employed to pimp the flick, not your reaction to it), than I think your reaction story may actually have merit. If the producers thought having her walk the carpet would be positive, they clearly have very questionable decision making skills. No way they could make a good, serious flick.


In reality, I had heard of the movie about a year or so ago but hadn't given a thought about it since. Then I saw the kashdashian story the other day and LOLed. She snuck out the back door after walking the red carpet. What a whore.
 

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I don't think that's the case though..overall, the movie's been getting pretty negative reviews.

The Promise

I've only "seen/heard" the reviews on television. I haven't done any digging into it since I honestly think critics are usually wrong anyway, either way
 

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I've only "seen/heard" the reviews on television. I haven't done any digging into it since I honestly think critics are usually wrong anyway, either way

Digging?

There's this thing called Rotten Tomatoes.

One click away.
 

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In reality, I had heard of the movie about a year or so ago but hadn't given a thought about it since. Then I saw the kashdashian story the other day and LOLed. She snuck out the back door after walking the red carpet. What a whore.
Again, the producers thought that having the Cardassian pimp this serious flick was intelligent marketing?

Seriously questionable decision making skills there...
 
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