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You are finally starting to understand the incredible OD
 

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I needed a canvas to come back to in November to show everyone I was right about Oklahoma underachieving this year.
Oh your canvas is all over this site alright. Oregon was actually overrated it would seem.

That nebraska game thread will live on in infamy. The Colorado game thread that wasn't a game thread but was a game thread is right there with it.

So when does Larp season start up again? I'm thinking you have a lot more free time now to pursue other hobbies. I mean something besides camping outside of duck HQ with a pitchfork waiting for Hoke to walk by.
 

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According to the College Football Ranking Composite (P5 teams):

School-----------Preseason----Current---------Difference


Where Did they Come From?

Colorado....................85th..........27th...................+ 58
Wake Forest...............89th..........41st....................+ 47
Maryland...................86th..........46th....................+ 40
Virginia Tech..............45th..........11th....................+ 34
Miami........................43d...........17th....................+ 26
Texas A&M.................30th............5th....................+ 25
Nebraska...................38th..........14th....................+ 24
Louisville...................28th............7th....................+ 21

Surprises

Washington................25th...........6th....................+ 19
NC State...................52d...........34th....................+ 18
West Virginia.............32d...........14th.....................+ 18
Arizona State.............46th..........29th....................+ 17
Wisconsin..................24th............9th....................+ 15
Kansas State.............58th..........44th.....................+ 14
Wash State................37th..........23d.....................+ 14
Indiana.....................66th..........53d.....................+ 13
Penn State.................48th..........35th....................+ 13
Auburn......................31st..........19th....................+ 12
Kentucky...................79th..........67th....................+ 12
Oregon State.............97th..........85th....................+ 12

Where They Should BE

Florida......................29th..........20th....................+ 09
Georgia Tech..............61st..........52d.....................+ 09
Michigan......................9th...........1st....................+ 08
Minnesota..................62d...........59th....................+ 03
Houston.....................15th.........13th....................+ 02
Tennessee..................10th...........8th....................+ 02
Boston College............76th..........75th...................+ 01
Purdue.......................96th..........95th...................+ 01
Mizzou.......................64th..........64th........................0
Ohio State...................4th............4th........................0
Utah..........................26th..........26th........................0
Alabama......................1st............2d......................- 01
Clemson......................2d.............3d......................- 01
Rutgers.....................92d...........93d......................- 01
Texas Tech.................53d...........54th.....................- 01
Florida State................8th..........12th.....................- 04
Pitt...........................39th...........43d.....................- 04
BYU..........................34th...........42d.....................- 08
Baylor.......................13th...........22d.....................- 09

Underachievers

Ole Miss......................6th..........16th.....................- 10
Cal............................44th.........55th.....................- 11
UCLA.........................27th.........38th.....................- 11
Vandy........................78th.........89th.....................- 11
North Carolina............18th..........31st.....................- 13
Southern Cal..............17th..........30th.....................- 13
South Carolina............70th..........83d......................- 13
Virginia......................73d...........86th....................- 13
Arizona......................56th..........70th....................- 14
Arkansas...................16th..........32d......................- 16
Northwestern.............42d...........58th.....................- 16
Stanford......................5th..........21st.....................- 16
Syracuse...................80th..........96th.....................- 16
Duke.........................60th..........77th.....................- 17
Georgia.....................20th..........37th.....................- 17
LSU............................7th..........24th.....................- 17

Coaching Staff Better Find a Realtor (outside of Oklahoma & MSU x2)

Oklahoma....................3d...........25th.....................- 22
Iowa State.................82d.........106th.....................- 24
Texas........................50th..........74th.....................- 24
Oklahoma State..........21st..........47th.....................- 26
Iowa..........................22d...........50th.....................- 28
Illinois........................74th.......104th......................- 30
TCU...........................12th.........49th......................- 37
Miss State...................23d..........65th......................- 42
Oregon......................19th..........62d.......................- 43
Michigan State............11th..........68th.....................- 57
Notre Dame................14th..........81st.....................- 67
 

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According to the College Football Ranking Composite (P5 teams):

School-----------Preseason----Current---------Difference


Where Did they Come From?

Colorado....................26th..........26th...................+0
Wake Forest...............26th..........26th....................+0
Maryland...................26th..........26th....................+0
Virginia Tech..............26th..........11th....................+ 15
Miami........................26th..........17th....................+ 9
Texas A&M.................26th...........5th....................+ 21
Nebraska...................26th..........14th....................+ 12
Louisville...................26th............7th....................+ 19

Surprises

Washington................25th...........6th....................+ 19
NC State...................26th...........26th....................+ 0
West Virginia.............26th...........14th.....................+ 12
Arizona State.............26th..........26th....................+ 0
Wisconsin..................24th............9th....................+ 15
Kansas State.............26th..........26th.....................+ 0
Wash State................26th..........23rd.....................+ 3
Indiana.....................26th..........26th.....................+ 0
Penn State.................26th..........26th....................+ 0
Auburn......................26th..........19th....................+ 7
Kentucky...................26th..........26th....................+ 0
Oregon State.............26th..........26th....................+ 0

Where They Should BE

Florida......................26th..........20th....................+ 6
Georgia Tech..............26th..........26th....................+ 0
Michigan......................9th...........1st....................+ 8
Minnesota...................26th..........26th....................+ 0
Houston.....................15th.........13th....................+ 2
Tennessee..................10th...........8th....................+ 2
Boston College............26th..........26th...................+ 0
Purdue.......................26th..........26th...................+ 0
Mizzou.......................26th..........26th........................0
Ohio State...................4th............4th........................0
Utah..........................26th..........26th........................0
Alabama......................1st...........2nd......................- 1
Clemson......................2d.............3rd......................- 1
Rutgers.....................26th...........26th......................- 0
Texas Tech.................26th...........26th.....................- 0
Florida State................8th..........12th.....................- 4
Pitt...........................26th...........26th....................- 0
BYU..........................26th...........26th....................- 0
Baylor.......................13th...........22nd...................- 09
Underachievers

Ole Miss......................6th..........16th.....................- 10
Cal............................26th.........26th.....................- 0
UCLA.........................26th.........26th.....................- 0
Vandy........................26th.........26th.....................- 0
North Carolina............18th..........26th.....................- 8
Southern Cal..............17th..........26th.....................- 9
South Carolina............26th..........26th.....................- 0
Virginia.....................26th...........26th....................- 0
Arizona.....................26th..........26th....................- 0
Arkansas...................16th..........26th......................- 10
Northwestern.............26th..........26th.....................- 0
Stanford......................5th..........21st.....................- 16
Syracuse...................26th..........26th.....................- 0
Duke.........................26th..........26th.....................- 0
Georgia.....................20th..........26th.....................- 6
LSU............................7th..........24th.....................- 17

Coaching Staff Better Find a Realtor (outside of Oklahoma & MSU x2)

Oklahoma....................3d...........25th.....................- 22
Iowa State.................26th.........26th.....................- 0
Texas........................26th..........26th.....................- 0
Oklahoma State..........21st..........26th.....................- 5
Iowa.........................22nd..........26th.....................- 4
Illinois.......................26th.........26th......................- 0
TCU...........................12th.........26th......................- 14
Miss State..................23rd..........26th......................- 3
Oregon......................19th..........26th.......................- 7
Michigan State............11th..........26th.....................- 15
Notre Dame................14th..........26th.....................- 12

I changed the numbers above to fit this thread's paradigm - outside the top 25 is 26, no matter how far away you are/were. So the above version shows what the results would be if the season ended now.


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I changed the numbers above to fit this thread's paradigm - outside the top 25 is 26, no matter how far away you are/were. So the above version shows what the results would be if the season ended now.


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Yes, but by doing this, you equate the 26th ranked team with the worst team in Div 1-A. Notre Dame's fall is far worse than anyone else's, but you have them as just another underachiever if you rank them 26th...
 

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Yes, but by doing this, you equate the 26th ranked team with the worst team in Div 1-A. Notre Dame's fall is far worse than anyone else's, but you have them as just another underachiever if you rank them 26th...

Oh, I agree - but it's what was stated explicitly by the OP as the parameter for this particular exercise. I have no dog in the hunt. My numbers just illustrate the numbers that this formula would use if the season ended now.

Interestingly, Utah actually is 26th, both at the beginning of the season and now.


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Uh...care to try again. :clap:
I was being a wise ass :dhd:

My dark horse was Wisconsin since the beginning of the season. Their defense is legit. My only concerns were whether their offense would click. And the stretch of schedule they are in now. They would have been my actual under rated team

My over rated team would have been Georgia. Smart is a great coach. But it is his first year. And I thought they were ranked a bit too high. I'm not saying they aren't a good team. I just didn't see them being quite there yet.


I actually posted a lot about both.My wise ass picks did backfire pretty good tho :L :dhd:
 

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According to the College Football Ranking Composite (P5 teams):

School-----------Preseason----Current---------Difference


Where Did they Come From?

Colorado....................85th..........27th...................+ 58
Wake Forest...............89th..........41st....................+ 47
Maryland...................86th..........46th....................+ 40
Virginia Tech..............45th..........11th....................+ 34
Miami........................43d...........17th....................+ 26
Texas A&M.................30th............5th....................+ 25
Nebraska...................38th..........14th....................+ 24
Louisville...................28th............7th....................+ 21

Surprises

Washington................25th...........6th....................+ 19
NC State...................52d...........34th....................+ 18
West Virginia.............32d...........14th.....................+ 18
Arizona State.............46th..........29th....................+ 17
Wisconsin..................24th............9th....................+ 15
Kansas State.............58th..........44th.....................+ 14
Wash State................37th..........23d.....................+ 14
Indiana.....................66th..........53d.....................+ 13
Penn State.................48th..........35th....................+ 13
Auburn......................31st..........19th....................+ 12
Kentucky...................79th..........67th....................+ 12
Oregon State.............97th..........85th....................+ 12

Where They Should BE

Florida......................29th..........20th....................+ 09
Georgia Tech..............61st..........52d.....................+ 09
Michigan......................9th...........1st....................+ 08
Minnesota..................62d...........59th....................+ 03
Houston.....................15th.........13th....................+ 02
Tennessee..................10th...........8th....................+ 02
Boston College............76th..........75th...................+ 01
Purdue.......................96th..........95th...................+ 01
Mizzou.......................64th..........64th........................0
Ohio State...................4th............4th........................0
Utah..........................26th..........26th........................0
Alabama......................1st............2d......................- 01
Clemson......................2d.............3d......................- 01
Rutgers.....................92d...........93d......................- 01
Texas Tech.................53d...........54th.....................- 01
Florida State................8th..........12th.....................- 04
Pitt...........................39th...........43d.....................- 04
BYU..........................34th...........42d.....................- 08
Baylor.......................13th...........22d.....................- 09

Underachievers

Ole Miss......................6th..........16th.....................- 10
Cal............................44th.........55th.....................- 11
UCLA.........................27th.........38th.....................- 11
Vandy........................78th.........89th.....................- 11
North Carolina............18th..........31st.....................- 13
Southern Cal..............17th..........30th.....................- 13
South Carolina............70th..........83d......................- 13
Virginia......................73d...........86th....................- 13
Arizona......................56th..........70th....................- 14
Arkansas...................16th..........32d......................- 16
Northwestern.............42d...........58th.....................- 16
Stanford......................5th..........21st.....................- 16
Syracuse...................80th..........96th.....................- 16
Duke.........................60th..........77th.....................- 17
Georgia.....................20th..........37th.....................- 17
LSU............................7th..........24th.....................- 17

Coaching Staff Better Find a Realtor (outside of Oklahoma & MSU x2)

Oklahoma....................3d...........25th.....................- 22
Iowa State.................82d.........106th.....................- 24
Texas........................50th..........74th.....................- 24
Oklahoma State..........21st..........47th.....................- 26
Iowa..........................22d...........50th.....................- 28
Illinois........................74th.......104th......................- 30
TCU...........................12th.........49th......................- 37
Miss State...................23d..........65th......................- 42
Oregon......................19th..........62d.......................- 43
Michigan State............11th..........68th.....................- 57
Notre Dame................14th..........81st.....................- 67

Too bad Iowa just extended the old man through 2025. LMOA
 

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Yes, but by doing this, you equate the 26th ranked team with the worst team in Div 1-A. Notre Dame's fall is far worse than anyone else's, but you have them as just another underachiever if you rank them 26th...

When I started doing the annual over/under posts several years ago, I didn't want to have to negotiate how bad the teams were after the top 25. I also went with the AP poll instead of the Coaches Poll because at the time the Coaches Poll was tied into the results of the BCS championship.

After the top 25 you basically get into the computer rankings. And you see just how butt hurt certain people have gotten when the Sagarin ratings are released.......
 

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According to the College Football Ranking Composite (P5 teams):

School-----------Preseason----Current---------Difference


Where Did they Come From?

Colorado....................85th..........27th...................+ 58
Wake Forest...............89th..........41st....................+ 47
Maryland...................86th..........46th....................+ 40
Virginia Tech..............45th..........11th....................+ 34
Miami........................43d...........17th....................+ 26
Texas A&M.................30th............5th....................+ 25
Nebraska...................38th..........14th....................+ 24
Louisville...................28th............7th....................+ 21

Surprises

Washington................25th...........6th....................+ 19
NC State...................52d...........34th....................+ 18
West Virginia.............32d...........14th.....................+ 18
Arizona State.............46th..........29th....................+ 17
Wisconsin..................24th............9th....................+ 15
Kansas State.............58th..........44th.....................+ 14
Wash State................37th..........23d.....................+ 14
Indiana.....................66th..........53d.....................+ 13
Penn State.................48th..........35th....................+ 13
Auburn......................31st..........19th....................+ 12
Kentucky...................79th..........67th....................+ 12
Oregon State.............97th..........85th....................+ 12

Where They Should BE

Florida......................29th..........20th....................+ 09
Georgia Tech..............61st..........52d.....................+ 09
Michigan......................9th...........1st....................+ 08
Minnesota..................62d...........59th....................+ 03
Houston.....................15th.........13th....................+ 02
Tennessee..................10th...........8th....................+ 02
Boston College............76th..........75th...................+ 01
Purdue.......................96th..........95th...................+ 01
Mizzou.......................64th..........64th........................0
Ohio State...................4th............4th........................0
Utah..........................26th..........26th........................0
Alabama......................1st............2d......................- 01
Clemson......................2d.............3d......................- 01
Rutgers.....................92d...........93d......................- 01
Texas Tech.................53d...........54th.....................- 01
Florida State................8th..........12th.....................- 04
Pitt...........................39th...........43d.....................- 04
BYU..........................34th...........42d.....................- 08
Baylor.......................13th...........22d.....................- 09

Underachievers

Ole Miss......................6th..........16th.....................- 10
Cal............................44th.........55th.....................- 11
UCLA.........................27th.........38th.....................- 11
Vandy........................78th.........89th.....................- 11
North Carolina............18th..........31st.....................- 13
Southern Cal..............17th..........30th.....................- 13
South Carolina............70th..........83d......................- 13
Virginia......................73d...........86th....................- 13
Arizona......................56th..........70th....................- 14
Arkansas...................16th..........32d......................- 16
Northwestern.............42d...........58th.....................- 16
Stanford......................5th..........21st.....................- 16
Syracuse...................80th..........96th.....................- 16
Duke.........................60th..........77th.....................- 17
Georgia.....................20th..........37th.....................- 17
LSU............................7th..........24th.....................- 17

Coaching Staff Better Find a Realtor (outside of Oklahoma & MSU x2)

Oklahoma....................3d...........25th.....................- 22
Iowa State.................82d.........106th.....................- 24
Texas........................50th..........74th.....................- 24
Oklahoma State..........21st..........47th.....................- 26
Iowa..........................22d...........50th.....................- 28
Illinois........................74th.......104th......................- 30
TCU...........................12th.........49th......................- 37
Miss State...................23d..........65th......................- 42
Oregon......................19th..........62d.......................- 43
Michigan State............11th..........68th.....................- 57
Notre Dame................14th..........81st.....................- 67


This is a great listing its really interesting to see how the teams moved. But what are you using for preseason rankings? For instance Notre Dame was #10 on the OP and in the Preseason AP while this listing has them at # 14. LSU was # 5 preseason AP this list has them #7. Stanford was #8 preseason this list has them 5th. And so forth.
 

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I was being a wise ass :dhd:

My dark horse was Wisconsin since the beginning of the season. Their defense is legit. My only concerns were whether their offense would click. And the stretch of schedule they are in now. They would have been my actual under rated team

My over rated team would have been Georgia. Smart is a great coach. But it is his first year. And I thought they were ranked a bit too high. I'm not saying they aren't a good team. I just didn't see them being quite there yet.


I actually posted a lot about both.My wise ass picks did backfire pretty good tho :L :dhd:
No one believes you.
 

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When I started doing the annual over/under posts several years ago, I didn't want to have to negotiate how bad the teams were after the top 25. I also went with the AP poll instead of the Coaches Poll because at the time the Coaches Poll was tied into the results of the BCS championship.

After the top 25 you basically get into the computer rankings. And you see just how butt hurt certain people have gotten when the Sagarin ratings are released.......
The difference is that Sagarin is only one computer rating. When you have dozens lashed together and compute the cumulative average, it is probably more accurate than writere, coaches or singular computers. Not sure why the Powers That Be do not use the CFRC....
 

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This is a great listing its really interesting to see how the teams moved. But what are you using for preseason rankings? For instance Notre Dame was #10 on the OP and in the Preseason AP while this listing has them at # 14. LSU was # 5 preseason AP this list has them #7. Stanford was #8 preseason this list has them 5th. And so forth.
I use the college football ranking composite, a compendium of all the computer polls that are out there. If you take one pill it will give you a result, but when you combine them all, it probably is the most accurate of all. It certainly is more accurate than the preconceived impressions of writers who live and die with conventional wisdom or coaches who do not give the process a second thought...

Google college football ranking composite. It is to CFB what RealClear politics is to polling...
 
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