Would you rather?

[Gatorchip]

It depends on UFs ranking. Should change annually as required to ensure the Gators get a shot.

 

[Chewbaccer]

I don't really care about this "true champion" talk.

Whatever leads to more college football is what I will vote for.

Hell, go with a bracket like March madness.

 

[douggie]

I know how we can settle this discussion. Let's just have a college football playoff.

 

[Hang_On_Sloopy08]

What's unique and sacred to college football is the regular season. If we move to an 8 team playoff then we'll get shafted as fans for marquee OOC games preseason. There will be more emphasis to play it safe preseason since as a P5 it wouldn't require you to win your conference to make the playoffs if they allowed 8 teams. As it stands, it's still imperative you win your conference to get it in. The 4th spot comes down to a tie breaker of SOS between the last two P5 champions. So AD's will keep scheduling these big preseason marquee games to boost SOS and style points.

 

[KansasSooner]

So AD's will keep scheduling these big preseason marquee games to boost SOS and style points.

Right, Baylor's OOC schedule is just chock full of great teams...

 

[Deep Creek]

What reason is there to go to 8?

The only reason they will ever go to 8 is if the money for those additional four first round games is HUUUGGGGEEE. They don't do anything in CFB anymore unless there is additional television revenue to be had.

No meaningful additional revenue...no increase in the number of playoff games.

 

[Deep Creek]

sacred

If the regular season is so sacred, then there are a lot of schools that are not treating it as such. If they were treating it with the respect a sacred entity deserves, they wouldn't dishonor it by scheduling cream puffs in the regular season. Doing such is treating a portion of the regular season like a good whore...not something sacred.

I know because my team was UT's million dollar whore this year. We got fucked good but were well payed for it. Isn't that the same as the world's oldest profession?

 

[CU#1Fan]

Redo the whole thing. Instead of the 2 current divisions (FBS & FCS) make 3 divisions. 80 teams in top division split in four 20 team conferences. Each conf splits that into two 10 team divisions. Play a round robin in each division for 9 games, schedule the other 3 however you want but at least 1 must be from the top division of the 80 teams other two can be from the next division down if you want.

Division Champs play for Conf Championship. 4 conf champs go to 4 team playoff utilizing the rotating bowls just like now. Keep the other bowls for the teams that don't make the playoff.

No subjectivity, no polls, etc. Wanna be the champ? Win it on the field, win your division and then be one of the 4 conf champs.

 

[Hang_On_Sloopy08]

Right, Baylor's OOC schedule is just chock full of great teams...

Yea, their schedule really paid dividends in 2014 when they were battling OSU for the 4th spot didn't it? OSU freaking lost to VT, all Baylor had to do was play some P5 teams with a pulse and they couldn't gotten in. But yea, they played juggernauts in SMU, Northwestern State, and Buffalo. Good call sport!

 

[Deep Creek]

Redo the whole thing. Instead of the 2 current divisions (FBS & FCS) make 3 divisions. 80 teams in top division split in four 20 team conferences. Each conf splits that into two 10 team divisions. Play a round robin in each division for 9 games, schedule the other 3 however you want but at least 1 must be from the top division of the 80 teams other two can be from the next division down if you want.

Division Champs play for Conf Championship. 4 conf champs go to 4 team playoff utilizing the rotating bowls just like now. Keep the other bowls for the teams that don't make the playoff.

No subjectivity, no polls, etc. Wanna be the champ? Win it on the field, win your division and then be one of the 4 conf champs.

Too logical. It'll never happen.

 

[CU#1Fan]

Too logical. It'll never happen.

Yeah I know but I can hope.

 

[Hang_On_Sloopy08]

If the regular season is so sacred, then there are a lot of schools that are not treating it as such. If they were treating it with the respect a sacred entity deserves, they wouldn't dishonor it by scheduling cream puffs in the regular season. Doing such is treating a portion of the regular season like a good whore...not something sacred.

I know because my team was UT's million dollar whore this year. We got fucked good but were well payed for it. Isn't that the same as the world's oldest profession?

Face palm^^^. The OP hypothetical was posed to us as fans which we'd rather have to watch. The regular season is "sacred" to us as fans, not to AD's who make schedules.

 

[MarkOU]

So let me see if I understand this right.

You have 8 spots available and you still need to have conference champions with an auto bid?

If your conference can't put it's champion into the top8 spots, then maybe there is a good reason for it.

Interesting point. How many conference games you lost in the last 6 years?

 

[Deep Creek]

Face palm^^^. The OP hypothetical was posed to us as fans which we'd rather have to watch. The regular season is "sacred" to us as fans, not to AD's who make schedules.

11/12ths of the regular season may be "sacred" to true fans. And ADs make the schedules that the fan base tolerates. So don't hide behind the sanctity of the regular season being sacred if ALL of it isn't.

 

[4down20]

Well, we already have had 1 BCS title game rematch so I don't see why that would be a problem. I'm personally more into 6 teams then 8 just to not dilute it too much. Give top 2 a bye. I think 6 is the golden number.

So just add teams for the fuck of it?

How about no.

 

[4down20]

Interesting point. How many conference games you lost in the last 6 years?

8.

 

[MarkOU]

The conferences need to stop growing or we will need 8 teams. Size matters and if you get two three or four teams in the same conference 11-1, 12-1, 11-1, 12-1. Then you'll get your bitching about 8th place saying they couldn of won it.

 

[4down20]

So do I but I still see P5 teams scheduling FCS schools, so that tells me the regular season doesn't matter if FCS wins count...I will grant you some G5 schools ain't much better, a lot of them though have just made the jump to FBS level though.

I don't follow. I'm sure you are old enough to remember that just 15 years ago we only had 11 games a season and when they went to 12, most everyone just added FCS teams.

 

[4down20]

Redo the whole thing. Instead of the 2 current divisions (FBS & FCS) make 3 divisions. 80 teams in top division split in four 20 team conferences. Each conf splits that into two 10 team divisions. Play a round robin in each division for 9 games, schedule the other 3 however you want but at least 1 must be from the top division of the 80 teams other two can be from the next division down if you want.

Division Champs play for Conf Championship. 4 conf champs go to 4 team playoff utilizing the rotating bowls just like now. Keep the other bowls for the teams that don't make the playoff.

No subjectivity, no polls, etc. Wanna be the champ? Win it on the field, win your division and then be one of the 4 conf champs.

You can't do that, it would be illegal and the NCAA would be sued.

The NCAA can't prevent teams from being in whatever division they want to be in. They set minimum requirements such as stadium attendance etc and so long as the teams make those requirements, those teams will be let in. It opens up huge anti-trust issues if they prevent teams from joining as you suggest. Which is why we keep getting more and more FBS teams.

Also, you are yet another person talking about subjectivity and polls. Please point out the years where the polls were so bad that the current system wouldn't take care of.

What year did the polls get it sooo wrong?

 

[4down20]

Yea, their schedule really paid dividends in 2014 when they were battling OSU for the 4th spot didn't it? OSU freaking lost to VT, all Baylor had to do was play some P5 teams with a pulse and they couldn't gotten in. But yea, they played juggernauts in SMU, Northwestern State, and Buffalo. Good call sport!

And the Big12 fucked up the PR with that whole "one true champion" shit and then at the end of the year they were like "oops, 2 champions" trying to get 2 teams into the playoffs.