Kraft Voted to Give Goodell The Power

[SteelersPride]

FIFY

Your not that dumb r u???

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Translation: The oddsmakers don't think much of the AFC East outside of New England yet again

You realize those are SB odds not just divisional stats right?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Forget what the vegas odds makers are saying. They don't know anything.

What's really important is what does @handicappers think

 

[Fountain City Blues]

You realize those are SB odds not just divisional stats right?

One can not make the SB without making the playoffs. Relax- twas a joke.

 

[cdumler7]

One can not make the SB without making the playoffs. Relax- twas a joke.

Part of the odds projected is who does have the easiest path to the playoffs and schedule to get the 1st overall seed. The Patriots with or without Brady definitely have what looks to be an easier path with Buffalo, Miami, and the Jets still looking like 9-7 teams at best. Honestly though I did think their odds would drop just a bit with the thought that they might drop one more game than they would have with Brady decreasing their odds of getting that 1st overall seed.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Part of the odds projected is who does have the easiest path to the playoffs and schedule to get the 1st overall seed. The Patriots with or without Brady definitely have what looks to be an easier path with Buffalo, Miami, and the Jets still looking like 9-7 teams at best. Honestly though I did think their odds would drop just a bit with the thought that they might drop one more game than they would have with Brady decreasing their odds of getting that 1st overall seed.

Pats will go 12-4 to 13-3 with this schedule. (3-1 to 2-2, to start the season)

 

[cdumler7]

Pats will go 12-4 to 13-3 with this schedule. (3-1 to 2-2, to start the season)

Have to see. With the suspension I have them at 11-5. Couple of tough road games plus divisional games are always tough. Still a great team that nobody wants to play.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Have to see. With the suspension I have them at 11-5. Couple of tough road games plus divisional games are always tough. Still a great team that nobody wants to play.

Which of the first four do they lose in your 11-5 prediction? I have them losing to AZ, and sweeping at home the following three. (If they upset AZ, look out, Pats would be positioned to possibly have a 14-2 season.)

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I have the Pats starting 1-3, but it doesn't really matter much in the end, imo.

 

[cdumler7]

Which of the first four do they lose in your 11-5 prediction? I have them losing to AZ, and sweeping at home the following three. (If they upset AZ, look out, Pats would be positioned to possibly have a 14-2 season.)

I see them going 2-2 during the first 4 games. I see the @Steelers and @Broncos as 2 very tough places to go into and win. I see the Bengals and Seahawks as home games that it would be tough to win both. Then I see one divisional loss at some point.

 

[NEPatsfan]

I see them going 2-2 during the first 4 games. I see the @Steelers and @Broncos as 2 very tough places to go into and win. I see the Bengals and Seahawks as home games that it would be tough to win both. Then I see one divisional loss at some point.

But which two of the first four? I'm assuming AZ, so that leaves Dolphins, Texans, and Bills at Gillette.

 

[cdumler7]

But which two of the first four? I'm assuming AZ, so that leaves Dolphins, Texans, and Bills at Gillette.

I'm not sure. My guess is Texans but I could see the Bills sneaking one out.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I'm not sure. My guess is Texans but I could see the Bills sneaking one out.

That Texans defense really is no joke. I would not want an inexperienced QB rolling against the Texans defense. The Texans get any kind of offense or FP and the Texans beat the GrapeJello Patriots, imo. Tyrod I have felt was a bit underrated last year for what he did from an effeciency standpoint while Arizona seems like a slamdunk to me.

 

[NEPatsfan]

I'm not sure. My guess is Texans but I could see the Bills sneaking one out.

None of the three are a real NFL threat beyond the any given Sunday theory. But even if the Pats come out 2-2, barring key/numerous injuries the Pats schedule looks very much like a 12-4 or better schedule.

 

[NEPatsfan]

That Texans defense really is no joke. I would not want an inexperienced QB rolling against the Texans defense. The Texans get any kind of offense or FP and the Texans beat the GrapeJello Patriots, imo. Tyrod I have felt was a bit underrated last year for what he did from an effeciency standpoint while Arizona seems like a slamdunk to me.

Sure, and the Pats offense is loaded with weapons yet again. Lewis will be back, and the two headed monster TE set should be interesting to see, and you sill have Julian. Enough weapons that even the galloping chicken should be able to command sustained drives.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Sure, and the Pats offense is loaded with weapons yet again. Lewis will be back, and the two headed monster TE set should be interesting to see, and you sill have Julian. Enough weapons that even the galloping chicken should be able to command sustained drives.

That makes sense, but until we have a clue if Garropolo (god I still can't spell it) is any good against anything but prevent defense, I'd be very concerned. It's not at all trollish to suggest he could very easily be replacement value as a QB. Then again, he could be average and the Pats go 4-0, we'll see. Lot of possibilities here. Bad QB's have a funny way of messing up the script.

 

[cdumler7]

Sure, and the Pats offense is loaded with weapons yet again. Lewis will be back, and the two headed monster TE set should be interesting to see, and you sill have Julian. Enough weapons that even the galloping chicken should be able to command sustained drives.

The Pats though once again look like a team that is limited to relying heavily on the QB to produce to win. I don't see that they did a ton to improve the run game so teams can pin their ears back and come after the QB and both Buffalo and Houston have the weapons on defense to make life very difficult for any QB but especially a guy in his first few starts.

Yes the Patriots have lots of talent on both sides of the ball. Nobody knows how good or bad Garrapolo is going to be. Heck plenty of even great QB's struggled very early on in their career so say he throws a couple of untimely interceptions in a couple of these games and all of a sudden a win turns into a loss. Just too much of an unknown in Garrapolo for me to give the Patriots the benefit of the doubt in those 4 games even with 3 of them being home games.

 

[NEPatsfan]

That makes sense, but until we have a clue if Garropolo (god I still can't spell it) is any good against anything but prevent defense, I'd be very concerned. It's not at all trollish to suggest he could very easily be replacement value as a QB. Then again, he could be average and the Pats go 4-0, we'll see. Lot of possibilities here. Bad QB's have a funny way of messing up the script.

He won't be asked to do much, and he has an advantage by having been prepped for this time, unlike when a QB comes in for an injury. The Pats def is also uper tier, and should be able to handle their own at Gillette.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

He won't be asked to do much, and he has an advantage by having been prepped for this time, unlike when a QB comes in for an injury. The Pats def is also uper tier, and should be able to handle their own at Gillette.

As I said, we're just going to have to see. Lots of unknowns here.

 

[cdumler7]

He won't be asked to do much, and he has an advantage by having been prepped for this time, unlike when a QB comes in for an injury. The Pats def is also uper tier, and should be able to handle their own at Gillette.

How is he not going to be asked to do much? Have the Patriots really done enough to improve their biggest weakness in the run game from last year? I'm not really seeing it. Yeah they added a piece or two to the OL but they were not a great unit in either pass or run blocking last year. Brady getting the ball out so quick really helped that OL look better than they were. I don't think Garrapolo in his first few starts of his career will have that same ability. Throw in teams are going to be throwing the kitchen sink at him to get him to make a mistake.