Message from Big12 To B1G and PAC

[wazzu31]

Well, that's not the way that people who run billion dollar entities act. If it is really a movement that scares them, it won't go away. Losing billions to kick it down the line makes no sense. They have to have seen this coming ... they should have responded - all the health stuff yes, all the money stuff no but NIL is coming, all the SJW stuff we'll work with you on it in coming years. If you don't like that sit out, but we have a billion dollar business to run.

The players aren't going to get paid by the schools. NIL will appease them for the time being, and may be enough they never have to face it.

Sure, except the Pac 12 is located on the west coast. People who aren’t involved or care about athletics agree and support the players movement. The AD’s don’t have the balls to squash the movement and want to just kick the can down the road. Plus the AD’s aren’t heads of fortunate 500 companies since most of our schools are in the red as well.

 

[wazzu31]

Yep. All of these liberal universities (PAC and Big 10) have a list of "OR ELSE" demands sitting in front of them.

Covid is the low hanging fruit.

I can’t speak for the B1G but I know the Pac schools were unanimous on wanting to play the year then the movement started. Pre Players movement, the health risks were the same as they are today, so it doesn’t make sense that they were “willing to risk the lives” of all the athletes then but suddenly changed their minds once they all finalized a plan.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Outside of maybe Oregon and USC, no one gives a crap about the Pac12 anyways. Sad thing is they have talent but no fans in the stands. Now that the country is "smaller" due to technology, more of that West Coast talent is leaving and the league is declining. They are closer on a competitive level to the American League than the other power conferences.

B1G is a one team league with Ohio State so not much to speak from there as well. Just let Ohio State play Big12, SEC, and ACC schools as a represented B1G Champion. We know they will win the B1G anyways.

Oregon has been doing just fine recruiting.

 

[Goldbug]

I can't help but notice the irony in players who were decrying being exploited and loudly proclaiming their indignity at The Man making a fortune off them are now suddenly whining about not being to play. Hmmm. To think they were being held in virtual servitude and now they are free to live like 99% of the rest of the people who go to college and that's somehow a bad thing? LMAO

 

[trojanfan12]

I mean beating them in Neyland for the worst loss ever in the stadium was good too.

Neyland, Autzen, the high school around back

It doesn't matter, Ducks by a lot

lol @the Vol fan in here trying to talk shit. I guess those rednecks and hillbillies really are as dumb as folks say.

But you better be careful. That's the SEC, the Vols might try to send their big brother in to beat you up.

 

[Duckboy33]

lol @the Vol fan in here trying to talk shit. I guess those rednecks and hillbillies really are as dumb as folks say.

But you better be careful. That's the SEC, the Vols might try to send their big brother in to beat you up.

Last time Oregon played the Vols, we scored 59 unanswered the points before showing them mercy in the 3rd quarter.

 

[trojanfan12]

I can’t speak for the B1G but I know the Pac schools were unanimous on wanting to play the year then the movement started. Pre Players movement, the health risks were the same as they are today, so it doesn’t make sense that they were “willing to risk the lives” of all the athletes then but suddenly changed their minds once they all finalized a plan.

I'm with Dan Patrick. I want to know what happened in the few days from schedules being released, California issuing it's guidelines for college sports and dates set to start actual practice to them basically deciding over the weekend to shut everything down.

Heck, if memory serves, some schools (I believe USC was one) in both the PAC and B1G, were trying to see if they could do a 20% or so capacity for fans.

It seems really odd that we went from pretty much all momentum pointing to the season starting, to a full stop in basically 3-4 days with little to no word on why.

Don't know if was #WeAreUnited (seems the likely suspect) or what. But something happened.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

NCAA Reminds Boosters That Full Bribes Still Due Even If Football Season Canceled

 

[wazzu31]

I'm with Dan Patrick. I want to know what happened in the few days from schedules being released, California issuing it's guidelines for college sports and dates set to start actual practice to them basically deciding over the weekend to shut everything down.

Heck, if memory serves, some schools (I believe USC was one) in both the PAC and B1G, were trying to see if they could do a 20% or so capacity for fans.

It seems really odd that we went from pretty much all momentum pointing to the season starting, to a full stop in basically 3-4 days with little to no word on why.

Don't know if was #WeAreUnited (seems the likely suspect) or what. But something happened.

That is how the State of Washington was too. I know some small business’ weren’t thrilled the State was making exceptions for football but they were getting their business’ squeezed out. WSU had their drama with the players movement, then had their first full workout then they told everyone to go back to their housing. Nothing adds up with it being Covid related when the 3 of the most liberal and strict states with the Covid stuff was cool with them playing then this movement happened and it stopped. Like that Cal guy said to me in the Pac thread, if you use “critical thinking” it makes no sense that Covid is the reason to stop especially since baseball is being played in 5 of the 7 markets that make up the Pac 12.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

That is how the State of Washington was too. I know some small business’ weren’t thrilled the State was making exceptions for football but they were getting their business’ squeezed out. WSU had their drama with the players movement, then had their first full workout then they told everyone to go back to their housing. Nothing adds up with it being Covid related when the 3 of the most liberal and strict states with the Covid stuff was cool with them playing then this movement happened and it stopped. Like that Cal guy said to me in the Pac thread, if you use “critical thinking” it makes no sense that Covid is the reason to stop especially since baseball is being played in 5 of the 7 markets that make up the Pac 12.

With all the booze consumed in Pullman I'm thinking nobody would notice if they caught the virus.

 

[wazzu31]

With all the booze consumed in Pullman I'm thinking nobody would notice if they caught the virus.

Ok? Well Pullman has the lowest average age of citizens in the entire conference so Covid doesn’t affect the town.

 

[78Cyclones]

After the Louisiana @ Iowa State game, the rest is gravy!

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[ralphiewvu]

With all the booze consumed in Pullman I'm thinking nobody would notice if they caught the virus.

My feelings on Morgantown too. Absolutely bullshit that fat fuck Justice and crazy Gee don’t allow a full capacity in a Milan Puskar.

 

[LawDawg]

lol @the Vol fan in here trying to talk shit. I guess those rednecks and hillbillies really are as dumb as folks say.

But you better be careful. That's the SEC, the Vols might try to send their big brother in to beat you up.

Just ignore those toothless, cousin-humping, hillbillies.

 

[LawDawg]

See. I'm not the only one suspicious of these presidents real motives.

You spent a good deal of time telling me I was way off yesterday.
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Candidly, I've been in so many threads the past 36 hours on this and other forums, I have no idea what I said. Let's look at the possibilities:

1. As Wazzu31 asserts, they are afraid of the players uniting and having to accept their demands.
2. They truly believe that it's not safe to play.
3. It's politics, and they feel the need to mollify their fan bases/locals and cancel the season because blue states take this think seriously, and red states don't.

What are our other options?

I think it's most likely 2, but believe they are pulling the plug too quickly, and for faulty reasons.

 

[Muncie2]

A potential gold mine for the legal profession....

https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/12/ncaa-football-divide-big-ten-pac-12-sec-big-12

 

[Thiefery]

Pussies.....

 

[Red_Alert]

A potential gold mine for the legal profession....

https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/12/ncaa-football-divide-big-ten-pac-12-sec-big-12

"But for those pressing forward to play, heed one warning: The lawyers will be circling. Not the ones counseling conferences to avoid trifling with players’ health, but the ones who will be doing the suing if, God forbid, a player dies, has long-term damage or career-threatening complications. In an email to Sports Illustrated, prominent college sports attorney Tom Mars offered this chilling view of what the Big 12, ACC and SEC could be getting into:

“Whatever conference(s) decides to play football this fall will be taking a ridiculously high risk they may soon regret. I know and have talked with some of the best plaintiff’s lawyers in the country this week, and they’re praying the SEC, Big 12 and/or the ACC are greedy enough to stay the course. If things go sideways, the plaintiff’s Bar will immediately get their hands on the internal financial analyses of the schools (a FOIA layup), get the conference financials through the discovery process, and then just stand in front of the jurors and point to the conferences that decided not to risk the health of their student-athletes. Good Lord, I’d hate to be the lawyers defending those cases.”
And the attorneys lining up to represent plaintiffs? “These are lawyers who’ve already slain bigger dragons than the SEC, and they can afford to finance the most expensive litigation on the planet. As a coalition, they’d be the legal equivalent of the Death Star.”

Sleep well, Big 12, ACC and SEC leaders."

Obviously written by a sniveling douche suffering from a massive case of TDS.

It's a pretty simple solution really. Have the players and their parents sign a legal release if they want to play, practice, eat at the dining table, use the weight room, participate in team meetings, etc.

The onus of risk is on the players and their parents.

This is no different than a release for breaking one's neck making a tackle. There is already a legal release relating to that before he takes the field.

When you buy a ticket to a baseball game, you agree to a release that you will not sue if you get hit in the bean by a screaming foul ball.
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[Red_Alert]

Not to mention said lawyers would have to prove to the jury that the player caught Covid playing football and not from banging Susie Rottencrotch.