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Well. Let's be done with this debate. Sound good to you?
I honestly want nothing more to do with interacting with you. The constant lying and then trying to downplay disgusting sexual assault and watering it down to a "bar fight" is morally reprehensible. Combine that with the wishing cancer on a child and it's clear you're simply a bad person, plain and simple. I hope for your children's sake that your wife does most of the parenting, because they are going to be seriously fucked up people if they're taking after you.
 

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I honestly want nothing more to do with interacting with you. The constant lying and then trying to downplay disgusting sexual assault and watering it down to a "bar fight" is morally reprehensible. Combine that with the wishing cancer on a child and it's clear you're simply a bad person, plain and simple. I hope for your children's sake that your wife does most of the parenting, because they are going to be seriously fucked up people if they're taking after you.
Not what I was doing, stop creating your own narrative. I was comparing equal crimes. And at every chance I've given to stop this, you've felt the need to personally insult me. Which says more about you than me.
 

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Not what I was doing, stop creating your own narrative. I was comparing equal crimes.
No dude, you weren't. You're simply wrong in every facet. You tried building up Sprinkle's crime and watering down Perry's to equate them all in the name of defending your head coach.

If your wife is ever sexually assaulted while innocently standing in line to get into somewhere, minding her own business, try telling her it was a "bar fight" and see what happens.
 

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No dude, you weren't. You're simply wrong in every facet. You tried building up Sprinkle's crime and watering down Perry's to equate them all in the name of defending your head coach.

If your wife is ever sexually assaulted while innocently standing in line to get into somewhere, minding her own business, try telling her it was a "bar fight" and see what happens.
I'm not sure why you think the term "bar fight" downplays a crime. A bar fight can include murder. If a bar fight starts with a stabbing, it's still a bar fight. The level of crime has nothing to do with the term "bar fight". If my wife got groped in line, I would support her following through on charges. My stance wouldn't change if someone punched her. In fact, I think I'd be more upset if someone punched my wife in the face than grabbed her crotch in line. But that's just my initial reaction and in no way means I'm downplaying someone grabbing someone's crotch (because that's where you tend to take this). Most forms of unwanted sexual contact are misdemeanors in almost any state. You know what crime it's similar to? Aggravated assault, also a misdemeanor. Both charged very similarly in the courts. What takes sexual contact to another level if there's any attempt at undressing or penetration; THAT is where people end up on sexual predator lists. Otherwise, it's usually a misdemeanor.

This is how the law treats these crimes. That's the punishment for these crimes. You're treating me like some pro-r*pe person because I'm stating how our own justice system handles these events. I'm not OK with that. I don't support either of these things. I'd be pissed if either happened to anyone I know. And while I might personally wish the worst possible punishment on someone who did these to anyone I know, I impartially realize that some people do bad things, make mistakes and need ways to redeem themselves.

Which is why I'm fine with someone being allowed to go back and attempt to correct their life choices and get a second chance. I'm comparing these crimes not because I'm trying to lower the level of Perry's crime to something less bad, I'm comparing these crimes because I think they're equally bad.
 

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I'm not sure why you think the term "bar fight" downplays a crime. A bar fight can include murder. If a bar fight starts with a stabbing, it's still a bar fight. The level of crime has nothing to do with the term "bar fight". If my wife got groped in line, I would support her following through on charges. My stance wouldn't change if someone punched her. In fact, I think I'd be more upset if someone punched my wife in the face than grabbed her crotch in line. But that's just my initial reaction and in no way means I'm downplaying someone grabbing someone's crotch (because that's where you tend to take this). Most forms of unwanted sexual contact are misdemeanors in almost any state. You know what crime it's similar to? Aggravated assault, also a misdemeanor. Both charged very similarly in the courts. What takes sexual contact to another level if there's any attempt at undressing or penetration; THAT is where people end up on sexual predator lists. Otherwise, it's usually a misdemeanor.

This is how the law treats these crimes. That's the punishment for these crimes. You're treating me like some pro-r*pe person because I'm stating how our own justice system handles these events. I'm not OK with that. I don't support either of these things. I'd be pissed if either happened to anyone I know. And while I might personally wish the worst possible punishment on someone who did these to anyone I know, I impartially realize that some people do bad things, make mistakes and need ways to redeem themselves.

Which is why I'm fine with someone being allowed to go back and attempt to correct their life choices and get a second chance. I'm comparing these crimes not because I'm trying to lower the level of Perry's crime to something less bad, I'm comparing these crimes because I think they're equally bad.
Two men fighting against each other in a massive bar brawl is not the same as a person preying on a defenseless person, leaving them with PTSD. If you think that sentences handed down in a plea deal makes them equal from a morality standpoint, you're proving my point that you're a fucked up person with a dogshit moral compass. I'm done with you.
 

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Two men fighting against each other in a massive bar brawl is not the same as a person preying on a defenseless person, leaving them with PTSD. If you think that sentences handed down in a plea deal makes them equal from a morality standpoint, you're proving my point that you're a fucked up person with a dogshit moral compass. I'm done with you.
Then your issue is with our justice system, not me. You believe something is more serious of a crime than our law suggests it is. Would have, could have, been charged or convicted can be all over the place. You can get aggravated assault with a deadly weapon by hitting someone in the head with a beer bottle. They didn't. Hitting someone with a beer bottle in the head could kill them, it didn't. The only person with fucked up morals is the person trying to downplay a physical assault (You) because after starting this debate and finding a similar incident on your own team, you don't want to be wrong.
 

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Not what I was doing, stop creating your own narrative. I was comparing equal crimes. And at every chance I've given to stop this, you've felt the need to personally insult me. Which says more about you than me.

There's truly something wrong w/ you. So getting in a bar fight is the same as sexual assault? Go get the mental help you so badly need.
 

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There's truly something wrong w/ you. So getting in a bar fight is the same as sexual assault? Go get the mental help you so badly need.

Both were bar fights. The term "bar fight" doesn't indicate level of crime. A murder can happen in a bar fight. One bar fight involved a weapon and a riot, the other bar fight involved groping. Both crimes were treated similar in our justice system. Don't question my morals ass hole.
 

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There's truly something wrong w/ you. So getting in a bar fight is the same as sexual assault? Go get the mental help you so badly need.
It's unbelievable. I've never seen someone go to such lengths - lying, wildly speculating, lying some more, and finally calling sexual assault a "bar fight" just at an attempt to try and make their coach look good. It's been one of the more disgusting displays I've ever seen on tHoop. Then again, though, he wishes cancer on children, so it's not like you can expect him to be a decent person.
 

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It's unbelievable. I've never seen someone go to such lengths - lying, wildly speculating, lying some more, and finally calling sexual assault a "bar fight" just at an attempt to try and make their coach look good. It's been one of the more disgusting displays I've ever seen on tHoop. Then again, though, he wishes cancer on children, so it's not like you can expect him to be a decent person.
Fuck you man. I haven't lied at all. And the comment from 3 years ago was bad, I've apologized for it. If you don't want to accept my many apologies for it, fine. That's the last time I'm going to address that comment with you. But you're using it as a moral hinge in this debate because It's in fact YOU that's downplaying a serious crime because you got caught in a dilemma. Either admit you were wrong about Perry's situation by calling me out for saying I was fine with as second chance, or pull the fuck-tard move of trying to downplay a fucking RIOT. Saying you don't know who caused it, when it's obvious, is equivalent to me saying Perry "just pushed her out of line". So fuck you for questioning my morals.
 

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It isn't about what the NCAA said. My problem is with Harbaugh's comments. They're problematic and create a horrible atmosphere for a kid dealing with issues.

Once again — all he did was state a fact. If players are given a waiver to transfer for self diagnosed medical issues — all any player who wants to transfer has to say is.........I’m depressed.

And a player dealing with psychological issues, the LAST thing they need is to immediately start playing football if they transfer. So if depression is your reason for transferring — they need to get on meds and work on themselves, not learning a new playbook.
 

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Both were bar fights. The term "bar fight" doesn't indicate level of crime. A murder can happen in a bar fight. One bar fight involved a weapon and a riot, the other bar fight involved groping. Both crimes were treated similar in our justice system. Don't question my morals ass hole.

Your morals? Hey you worthless POS you have no morals. Otherwise you wouldn't have wished cancer on a kid. You really don't get how fucked up that is do you? And don't apologize for what you meant to say in the first place. The only reason you offered up that lame apology is the backlash you've gotten since then. Only a true loser would have said something like that in the first place. You really are a disgusting person.
 

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It's unbelievable. I've never seen someone go to such lengths - lying, wildly speculating, lying some more, and finally calling sexual assault a "bar fight" just at an attempt to try and make their coach look good. It's been one of the more disgusting displays I've ever seen on tHoop. Then again, though, he wishes cancer on children, so it's not like you can expect him to be a decent person.

That fella has many issues he's dealing with. Sadly though he can't see it.
 

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1) Because OSU
2) Because Urbs.

Who wouldn't want their kid to play for a modern legend like Urbs?
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No doubt, but position coaches are who deal with the recruits on a day to day basis. More so than the head coach.
So while Zach Smith wasn’t the best position coach, he was a very likable guy and could recruit his ass off.
From the sound of some of his strip club recruiting trips and how much he likes to drink — he sounds like a fun guy to hang out with.

I do agree Meyer is definitely the closer on many of these recruits.
 

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Your morals? Hey you worthless POS you have no morals. Otherwise you wouldn't have wished cancer on a kid. You really don't get how fucked up that is do you? And don't apologize for what you meant to say in the first place. The only reason you offered up that lame apology is the backlash you've gotten since then. Only a true loser would have said something like that in the first place. You really are a disgusting person.
Oh fuck you. I made a drunken comment, apologized for it the very next day, the guy accepted my apology and you're only using it to try an win a debate. No, I can't justify that. No, it has NOTHING to do with this debate. YOU'RE on the wrong moral side here and it doesn't fucking matter what I said in the past. So fuck you. You're wrong here. You're hopping on a train to downplay your own player's crimes to make your own program seem different. And I bet if I looked back on previous threads, you probably had shit to say when Perry got reinstated. Saying I think Perry deserved a second chance and not a life sentence was, and is, not a controversial comment. And it's only been OSU fans on the side shitting on it....interesting. Morals my ass. Look in the mirror.
 

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I haven't downplayed that Ohio State players crime. I would never defend any Buckeye that got in trouble w/ the law. Just like I was one of the few Ohio State fans that wanted Meyer fired the moment the Z. Smith stuff was made public. My issue w/ you is you're a POS. And it's funny how everyone else is wrong except you. Have I even mentioned anything about the crime? Nope.

I have a bet for you. You're claiming I talked shit about Perry. I'm so sure I didn't I'll leave SportsHoopla for good if you can find a comment of mine where I seriously did what you're claiming. But when you don't find what you're accusing me of you leave SportsHoopla for good.

You man enough for that bet? Probably not pussy. Put up or the shut the hell up once & for all. I've had enough of your longwinded & nonstop BS.
"everyone" isn't wrong. Just the two OSU ass-hats I've been arguing with here. And by jumping into the argument I'm having with Accross the Field, you're jumping onto his opinions as well. You can't block quote his comments and talk about how immoral I am without also agreeing with his opinions. No, you didn't directly say anything about Perry in this thread. Yes, you jumped on and agreed with someone who has. So fuck you for trying to scoot around your own actions. Don't pile on in a thread if you don't agree with the guy you're siding with.
 

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Oh fuck you. I made a drunken comment, apologized for it the very next day, the guy accepted my apology and you're only using it to try an win a debate. No, I can't justify that. No, it has NOTHING to do with this debate. YOU'RE on the wrong moral side here and it doesn't fucking matter what I said in the past. So fuck you. You're wrong here. You're hopping on a train to downplay your own player's crimes to make your own program seem different. And I bet if I looked back on previous threads, you probably had shit to say when Perry got reinstated. Saying I think Perry deserved a second chance and not a life sentence was, and is, not a controversial comment. And it's only been OSU fans on the side shitting on it....interesting. Morals my ass. Look in the mirror.

Find a sinlge comment of mine where I talked shit about Perry after he got reinstated. My issue w/ you is you're a POS. Now put up or shut the hell up. Again since you're so sure I talked shit about Perry find the comment(s) you're accusing me of. If you can't find it (which you won't because I've never done what you've accused me of) you really should just go away. You're a loser.
 

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"everyone" isn't wrong. Just the two OSU ass-hats I've been arguing with here. And by jumping into the argument I'm having with Accross the Field, you're jumping onto his opinions as well. You can't block quote his comments and talk about how immoral I am without also agreeing with his opinions. No, you didn't directly say anything about Perry in this thread. Yes, you jumped on and agreed with someone who has. So fuck you for trying to scoot around your own actions. Don't pile on in a thread if you don't agree with the guy you're siding with.

Not jumping into this argument at all. I just stopped by to call you what you truly are. A worthelss person & awful POS for your cancer comment.
 
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