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Thank you for putting me in my place before things got out of control. The movies depicting the Marvel characters that sucked over and over were not in fact Marvel movies.

which character marvel movies have sucked?
 

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i was always waiting for a joseph gordon levitt robin movie.
Me too... I was all pumped up after Dark Knight Rises. JGL would be a legit Robin. But I don't know if you could make a movie about a sidekick and sell it as well as the main superhero characters. But if Nolan did it then I would have gladly spent the money to go see it.
 

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Could be oversaturating the market. But these movies make bank, so hard to argue against. Unless these totally bomb, will probably be getting more of 'em.
 

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These died with Ledger, for me.
We survived the nipple Batman suit. I think we will be fine.

Ledger completely redefined the role and no other actor has come close to it yet. He's dead now and someone else will eventually get it right too.

I don't think Hollywood has figured out that a great villain is what makes or breaks a super hero movie yet unfortunately. By makes or breaks the movie I don't mean box office sales I mean would you actually want to watch the movie again. Typically one and done is all most of these cookie cutter series are worth.
 

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We survived the nipple Batman suit. I think we will be fine.

Ledger completely redefined the role and no other actor has come close to it yet. He's dead now and someone else will eventually get it right too.

I don't think Hollywood has figured out that a great villain is what makes or breaks a super hero movie yet unfortunately. By makes or breaks the movie I don't mean box office sales I mean would you actually want to watch the movie again. Typically one and done is all most of these cookie cutter series are worth.
Last comic movie I watched in theatre was Dark Knight.


Not sure what it will take to change that. Michael Keaton as Alfred? Idk.
 

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And the last two Iron Man. Second Thor.

I considered just walking into my garage, getting into the car and turning the engine on during Dark World
 

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Me too... I was all pumped up after Dark Knight Rises. JGL would be a legit Robin. But I don't know if you could make a movie about a sidekick and sell it as well as the main superhero characters. But if Nolan did it then I would have gladly spent the money to go see it.
I'd have paid to see it
 

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That Joaquin Phoenix 'Joker' Movie is Officially Happening

DC just just can’t get out of its own way. They are reportedly now developing TWO Joker movies. One with Phoenix that will be an origin story and one with Leto that will be part of the DCEU.

That is too confusing and will further cheapen their brand. Whomever is in charge of the DC IP needs to be shot. Seriously. They are destroying their product. PLEASE STOP!!!
A Joker origin story is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Part of the Joker's appeal is that you don't know why he is batshit crazy and he'll give you a different reason every time he is asked.

Overexplaining is a plauge in Hollywood.
 

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As bad as Affleck is as Batman, Leto is a much worse Joker.
I couldn't disagree more. Affleck's Batman was very one note for me.

I liked Leto's take on the Joker. Too many folks are hung up on Ledger's Joker and won't accept anything else. Just b/c Ledger's take on the character was the best doesn't mean a nonLedger Joker isn't good.

Having said that, I'm not sure I like the idea of a joker origin story. Like @Beaker said, part of the Joker's appeal is not knowing exactly how he got that way.
 

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I couldn't disagree more. Affleck's Batman was very one note for me.

I liked Leto's take on the Joker. Too many folks are hung up on Ledger's Joker and won't accept anything else. Just b/c Ledger's take on the character was the best doesn't mean a nonLedger Joker isn't good.

Having said that, I'm not sure I like the idea of a joker origin story. Like @Beaker said, part of the Joker's appeal is not knowing exactly how he got that way.
That's not my hang-up on Leto's joker at all. It's too goofy and weirdly eccentric. It's more fitting of a clown and even makes the animated joker look mature by comparison.
 

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That's not my hang-up on Leto's joker at all. It's too goofy and weirdly eccentric. It's more fitting of a clown and even makes the animated joker look mature by comparison.


it really wasn't bad... the thing that people have to realize is that there are so many different source materials, and the different source materials may depict some characters differently...

The Leto Joker was in the suicide squad source material... even though the characters in the suicide squad span over a few different DC source comics, it is its own comic...

and in the suicide squad source material the joker is played very similarly to how Leto portrayed it... so the hate on leto is not fair, if you didn't like it then you don't like the way the suicide squad comics portray the joker...
 

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As bad as Affleck is as Batman, Leto is a much worse Joker.

I liked Leto as the Joker, but more of what I liked didnt end up in the movie. Suicide Squad was an editing fuck up. That story had so much potential and it just got shredded. I am not going to blame the actor for that.
 

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A Joker origin story is one of the worst ideas I have ever heard. Part of the Joker's appeal is that you don't know why he is batshit crazy and he'll give you a different reason every time he is asked.

Overexplaining is a plauge in Hollywood.

they gave one in the source material for "A Killing Joke"
 

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I didn't even make it that far.

Affleck as Daredevil killed all comic movies for me.

Funny story about that.

I was in high school when that movie came out. I was taking "Film Studies".

One of the things we did on mondays was briefly discuss new movies.

After Daredevil came out we talked about it. It was destroyed by the students.

But my teacher was not familiar with the teacher, so he naturally asked

Teacher: Well, what's his superpower?

Student: He's blind.

Teacher: Well, most people wouldn't consider that a super power...

I always think of that whenever the movie is brought up.
 
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