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Rock Strongo
My mind spits with an enormous kickback.
you mean, 30 years ago?Bet you didn't complain back when the league was the Celtics vs the Lakers. It's only a problem if it's not your team.
you mean, 30 years ago?Bet you didn't complain back when the league was the Celtics vs the Lakers. It's only a problem if it's not your team.
its more about a guy taking a deal far below his market value (injury or no injury) simply to fit into his new teams cap.Exactly. Folks bitch about how players are just all about money and how they don't want to sacrifice money for winning.
Then, when players actually do just that (but with some other team)...they're "breaking the league", "are afraid of competition" or "are taking the easy path".
its more about a guy taking a deal far below his market value (injury or no injury) simply to fit into his new teams cap.
thats what i take issue with.
i dunno. times have changed. i never thought id see barkley, malone, etc do this. eras.Any time a player takes less money, he's taking less than his market value.
In a case like Boogie's...his injury is a real concern and the offers for him weren't what he (or most folks) were expecting. So, he takes a 1 year "make good" offer so that he can try to show that he's worth the kind of deal that he would have gotten had he not been hurt.
In most cases, a top level player isn't taking far below his market value. He's taking a few million less so that the team can sign role players (who are often taking less for a shot at a ring) and/or so that another top level player can be signed/re-signed.
its more about a guy taking a deal far below his market value (injury or no injury) simply to fit into his new teams cap.
thats what i take issue with.
not that i can think of, if you're angling at the celtics. im talking about cousins.Do you have an example you are thinking of?
i dunno. times have changed. i never thought id see barkley, malone, etc do this. eras.
not that i can think of, if you're angling at the celtics. im talking about cousins.
Cousins is a unique case because of his injury and the current cap situation. He could have taken a larger deal with the Pelicans but for only 2 years. But if he feels he is going to bounce back completely, then taking a one year deal on a winning team like the Warriors and then going for the big pay day next year, which would almost certainly be a 100+ million dollar deal, makes a lot of sense.
I don't think there were a lot of people knocking down his door, to be honest.
Yeah, from the info that's out there, it looks like he was expecting more offers for more money than were coming in. So he decided to contact the Warriors to see if he can get a ring while hopefully playing well enough to get himself a big contract.
Imo, he probably jumped too soon. I think the offers may have increased if he had been more patient. But it's hard to argue with what he chose to do.
He's taking a bet on himself.
The players today make exponentially more, so taking 20 mil instead of 28 or whatever still makes you very rich. Malone and Barkley were making like 8-10 mil per year in the 80s and 90s, still great money but a lot less so take ng a discount was a much bigger deal. Shoe contracts were much less too.i dunno. times have changed. i never thought id see barkley, malone, etc do this. eras.
didn't Barkley end his career with Houston chasing a ring and Malone with the Lakers doing the same?i dunno. times have changed. i never thought id see barkley, malone, etc do this. eras.
i dunno. times have changed. i never thought id see barkley, malone, etc do this. eras.
both were corpses WELL past their prime. they also didnt take ridiculously low offers to join those teams. malone got a 1.5 million 1 year deal, at age 40.didn't Barkley end his career with Houston chasing a ring and Malone with the Lakers doing the same?
once againKarl Malone along with Gary Payton joined the Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal Lakers.
Malone may have been 40, but he still played 32 minutes and averaged 13.2 pts and 8.7 rebs as a third option behind Shaq and Kobe on the defending champs. That may be down for Karl, but far from washed up. He took far less money to squeeze in with the defending champs than he could have gotten elsewhere and made them the prohibitive favorite for the championship. Sounds like a very similar situation. Hopefully the pistons can pull off another miracle.once again
malone was 40, and signed a 1 year 1.5 mil deal
the glove was a has been by the time he go to LA, and it was even worse when he got here. he was also hanging on at the end of his career, like malone...unlike boogie.
yes, its similar. ones 40, ones...27.Malone may have been 40, but he still played 32 minutes and averaged 13.2 pts and 8.7 rebs as a third option behind Shaq and Kobe on the defending champs. That may be down for Karl, but far from washed up. He took far less money to squeeze in with the defending champs than he could have gotten elsewhere and made them the prohibitive favorite for the championship. Sounds like a very similar situation. Hopefully the pistons can pull off another miracle.
Could Malone have made more money signing elsewhere? Yes.yes, its similar. ones 40, ones...27.
a guy in his prime vs a guy hanging on, which malone was at 40. also, didnt malone hurt his knee that year too? he missed half the season almost.