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Personally, I think we will see a heel turn of one of the Shield members, which I think will be Reigns.


Reigns would be the best choice to turn heel, but I think they'll play it safe and make Ambrose the one who turns heel, since he's the lowest on the totem pole of the three.
 

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Neville wasn't with the cruiserweight last night. Hope this means he's now on the main roster.

Also between Sami's turn and the Shield reunion they're running huge angles on both shows right now. I'm actually excited for more wrestling tonight which is rare.

There was a story on googles homepage that Neville asked for his release.
 

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Reigns would be the best choice to turn heel, but I think they'll play it safe and make Ambrose the one who turns heel, since he's the lowest on the totem pole of the three.

All I can see is Roman pays too much attention to Braun and the shield loses being triple teamed.

I mean Seth already went heel and did extremely well in the role, but I think they keep Roman on this new cena role of face/heel.
 

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There was a story on googles homepage that Neville asked for his release.
PWInsider said numerous WWE sources have denied to them that Neville has left the company. However, they added that since the rumor continues to circulate to stay tuned. Read it yourself here: NEVILLE RUMOR UPDATE | PWInsider.com

I wonder if he is injured again and that led the leaving WWE rumor???
 

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This whole Neville thing is very confusing and explains why 205 live was a mistake IMHO.

don't get me wrong. There are some talented wrestlers there but I think the WWE saw the success of the CWC and jumped in both feet.

It is a boring show.
 

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With AJ getting up there in age I see Neville becoming the best in ring performer on the roster in the next couple years if he stays there...

He has the in ring talent and a high enough profile to be immediately placed near the top of the card in NJPW. Assuming this story's legit he has a ton of leverage.
 

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Also the weirdest part of the rumor is that the Raw script went from Neville losing to Enzo to Enzo losing the title to Kalisto on a last second booking decision? Strange
 

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Also the weirdest part of the rumor is that the Raw script went from Neville losing to Enzo to Enzo losing the title to Kalisto on a last second booking decision? Strange
IMO it's even stranger that was the plan in the first place given the 'Neville can never wrestle Enzo again because he violated the no-touch clause' story line. I'm guessing they had Enzo lose the CW title on Raw instead of at the PPV to try and grab some of the fans tuning out football. They did get a bump in ratings from last week but not enough to justify hot shotting they angle in my book. But that is what WWE creative (read Vince) does a lot.
 

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PWInsider is reporting this morning that Neville pulled some kind of CM Punk/Stone Cold Austin type walk out over the weekend and into Raw due to his alleged displeasure with booking and being left off of the WM DVD (costing him royalties from the biggest PPV of the year). Link to full article NEVILLE UPDATE | PWInsider.com

The article said Neville reportedly pushed for his release BUT WWE has not granted him one as of yet.
 

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PWInsider is reporting this morning that Neville pulled some kind of CM Punk/Stone Cold Austin type walk out over the weekend and into Raw due to his alleged displeasure with booking and being left off of the WM DVD (costing him royalties from the biggest PPV of the year). Link to full article NEVILLE UPDATE | PWInsider.com

The article said Neville reportedly pushed for his release BUT WWE has not granted him one as of yet.
I also heard that Neville wasn't even at RAW. So there was no walk out, since he wasn't there in the first place.
 

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I also heard that Neville wasn't even at RAW. So there was no walk out, since he wasn't there in the first place.
He wasn't there because he walked out during the weekend and asked for his release. WWE still has not granted it to him BUT creative has nothing for Neville right now, wink wink. The original plan for Neville/Enzo on Raw was changed after creative found out he wasn't at Raw. WWE is trying to spin this as if there were no plans to bring Neville to Raw but come on, creative doesn't plan a match for you if you're not already scheduled to be there. Neville no showed house shows over the weekend and then Raw so WWE is in face saving/cover their ass mode and are stringing Neville along as a result. They did pretty much the same thing when CM Punk walked out.
 

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This shield/Miz group storyline makes no sense.
 

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This shield/Miz group storyline makes no sense.

Sure it does. The story is "we need to fill time until Brock comes back. Let's just throw people together and tear shit up"
 

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NOPE. Hard pass on that. Try again, WWE

why is this a bad idea?

again, I'm now almost 20 years out and looking at restarting.

having a champion v. champion fight seems normal to me.
 

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I didn't realize Kane was even still alive.
 

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why is this a bad idea?

again, I'm now almost 20 years out and looking at restarting.

having a champion v. champion fight seems normal to me.
The Jinder reign has been awful. It has been made to look like he is invincible. They have been building him up because they are going to tour India in December, and for some reason, they think India is a huge piece of business. Survivor Series is in November and they tour India in December, they would most likely have Mahal either beat Lesnar, or Lesnar not win "clean". That should put a nasty taste in anyone's mouth.
 

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The Jinder reign has been awful. It has been made to look like he is invincible. They have been building him up because they are going to tour India in December, and for some reason, they think India is a huge piece of business. Survivor Series is in November and they tour India in December, they would most likely have Mahal either beat Lesnar, or Lesnar not win "clean". That should put a nasty taste in anyone's mouth.

Jinder can't not win "clean"? Or maybe unclean for Lesnar goes sideways?

Idk. Just spitballing here.

India has like a billion people. If you can get into that market, you try.
 

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I've never popped more for music than I did when I heard SIERRA HOTEL INDIA ECHO LIMA DELTA last night. Then the swat gear. The entrance. So good. I don't see Shield losing their first match back. Miz and his crew are too stacked to make me think it's going to work.
 
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