How can you have Durant over Kobe at this point of his career? lol
Yea but you're forgetting 2 things:4th all time in PPG (Kobe is 12th)
8th all time in PER (Kobe is 23rd)
9th in Win Shares/48 (Kobe is 56th)
Even in career win shares, Kobe is 15th and Durant 44th. If KD averages 12/season like he did last year, he'll pass Kobe in 6 years. KD is 28.
The NBA hasn't seen anybody with the combo of skills like KD. Name me one other player ever who has been 7' with that length who can shoot the 3, rebound, pass, handle, and score like KD.
Kobe played until he was 37 - he had one 15+ win share season in his entire career. KD has put up a 16.1, 18.9 and 19.2 already.
So based on his unique skillset, his career achievements to date and his expected output over the next 6 seasons, I'm pretty comfortable saying that KD is a top-10 all time NBA player.
If he retires at 34 (3 years less than Kobe) he should be past Kobe in every meaningful career statistic.
He should, but he hasn't yet.4th all time in PPG (Kobe is 12th)
8th all time in PER (Kobe is 23rd)
9th in Win Shares/48 (Kobe is 56th)
Even in career win shares, Kobe is 15th and Durant 44th. If KD averages 12/season like he did last year, he'll pass Kobe in 6 years. KD is 28.
The NBA hasn't seen anybody with the combo of skills like KD. Name me one other player ever who has been 7' with that length who can shoot the 3, rebound, pass, handle, and score like KD.
Kobe played until he was 37 - he had one 15+ win share season in his entire career. KD has put up a 16.1, 18.9 and 19.2 already.
So based on his unique skillset, his career achievements to date and his expected output over the next 6 seasons, I'm pretty comfortable saying that KD is a top-10 all time NBA player.
If he retires at 34 (3 years less than Kobe) he should be past Kobe in every meaningful career statistic.
4th all time in PPG (Kobe is 12th)
8th all time in PER (Kobe is 23rd)
9th in Win Shares/48 (Kobe is 56th)
Even in career win shares, Kobe is 15th and Durant 44th. If KD averages 12/season like he did last year, he'll pass Kobe in 6 years. KD is 28.
The NBA hasn't seen anybody with the combo of skills like KD. Name me one other player ever who has been 7' with that length who can shoot the 3, rebound, pass, handle, and score like KD.
Kobe played until he was 37 - he had one 15+ win share season in his entire career. KD has put up a 16.1, 18.9 and 19.2 already.
So based on his unique skillset, his career achievements to date and his expected output over the next 6 seasons, I'm pretty comfortable saying that KD is a top-10 all time NBA player.
If he retires at 34 (3 years less than Kobe) he should be past Kobe in every meaningful career statistic.
Nothing.
None of that has anything to do with basketball.
Yea but you're forgetting 2 things:
1. He doesn't have the rings, which is bad.
2. He left to try to get the rings, which is also bad.
Poor guy never had a chance.
He should, but he hasn't yet.
So you're basing this off of what you think he's going to do? That's cool (not sarcasm), this top 10 is completely open for interpretation so if you feel KD will finish a top 10 player and want to put him there that's up to you.
You're right, it makes no sense.By that rationale, Lebron is also doomed because he doesn't have the rings of some other all-time greats, and he left to try to get the rings.
Makes no sense.
KD has yet to go through his declining years. Kobes PPG, win share and PER dropped a lot in his last 3 years.
Compare stats up until the age of 29 and tell me who the better player is.
By that rationale, Lebron is also doomed because he doesn't have the rings of some other all-time greats, and he left to try to get the rings.
Makes no sense.
KD has yet to go through his declining years. Kobes PPG, win share and PER dropped a lot in his last 3 years.
Compare stats up until the age of 29 and tell me who the better player is.
I'll just compare first 10 seasons in the NBA.
Durant 27.2 PPG
Kobe 23.6 PPG
Durant 25.2 PER
Kobe 22.2 PER
Durant .219 WS/48
Kobe .206 WS/48
Next?
I don't think anybody other than you penalized players for their declining years. Everybody declines. Players who last longer at their peak get bonus points (Kareem) Players who decline early and have short peaks lose points (Shaq). Players who go through natural evolution and are not the same at the end game shouldn't lose anything (Just about every great player).
Coming soon.
Really? Because a lot of people are comparing the stats of KD and lebron, who are currently still in their prime, against a guy like Kobe who had to suffer through four injury ridden final years.
Who do you think is going to come up top?
Some try to compare career totals. Who do you think wins that? The player who is retired or the 32 year old?
The way you compare is by looking at the player's best years. LeBron's best are better than Kobe's best.